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Post by Admin on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:04 pm

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IN A NUTSHELL, MY REACTION TO PROMETHEUS.

I watched it last night with my family (mum and dad, sister and her bf) and throughly enjoyed it. I’m not one for coherent movie reviews so you should go somewhere else for an in-depth review (I suggest this gentleman) but, here’s the gist of what I thought of it:

It was a great “Alien” movie, prequel or not, and maintained, nay, improved much of what made the first movie great and a cult movie in popular culture.

The aliens were scary but, not so much without H.R.Giger’s imagery (which was okay, since Giger is kind of scary and the fact that he’s an artistic reincarnation of Sigmund Freud). I have a bit of a monster fetish and found the Prometheus creatures more cute than terrifying (except for the thing that eats the other thing at the end THAT THING WAS FLIPPIN’ TERRIFYING GHADKLFA IF IT GETS NEAR ME I’LL BEAT IT TO DEATH WITH BRICKS) although the “Space Jockeys” were creepy as well.

The effects were AMAZING! The scenery, outfits, CG, and set design as well OMG I would live there if my lungs had the capability to breathe in the noxious atmosphere.

And the actors, as Noomi Rapace (as Elizabeth Shaw) gives Sigourney Weaver (Ripley) a run for her money, but I think Micheal Fassbender (as David) stole the show with his inhumanity/humanity and tendency to “touch” things.

Overall, four and half stars out of five.

However, I would not recommend this movie if you are easily freaked out by body horror (alien impregnation, anyone?), despise sic-fi, aliens, and have no knowledge of the Alien series and would rather keep it that way thank you very much.

Thats all!

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I’ve never really been into straight horror movies. For example, the last two even quasi-horror films I saw were The Cabin in the Woods and Prometheus, which are deconstructive and science fiction, respectively.

I haven’t seen enough horror films to know how true this is, but my understanding has generally been that the characters are underdeveloped. They can’t be seen as too sympathetic by the audience, or else killing them destroys the audience’s goodwill toward the movie, and that’s not good for the bottom line. But if you go too far in the other direction, and the only characters who die are asshole victims, then it’s not really horror so much as it is revenge fantasy.

I’m not even sure if Prometheus can be called a horror movie, but its DNA came from the stellar horror movie Alien; if nothing else, it was trying to be something suspenseful, and it failed abominably. As a prequel, it automatically suffered from reduced tension because we know, more or less, that they’re going to fail. Worse, it was a science fiction film. Now, I love science fiction as a genre, but when it’s combined with horror, then the plot can only get going if the trained, intelligent specialists act like ignorant, idiotic monkeys, and it hurts both my sympathy for the characters and my suspension of disbelief.

It took me out of the story when I saw the biologist taunt an unknown animal that was reacting to his presence exactly as a cobra would; you can guess what happened to him. Frankly, he deserved it. It took me out of the story when the crew just opened the pod bay doors and let in the zombie geologist without checking to see why his camera was at ground level. And this—this—is a classic annoyance: when two of the characters were trying to outrun the rolling wheel of death, why didn’t they just run perpendicular to its path in the first place?

There’s absolutely no suspense because I’m rooting for the aliens to kill them.

I mean, I get it; the existence of safety protocols or, god forbid, common sense would stop the entire horror genre in its tracks. In normal horror, you can justify it because the characters aren’t necessarily the safety-conscious or the especially bright. Hell, in The Cabin in the Woods, they were deliberately guided by other characters into their situation. But in science fiction movies like Prometheus, these people are supposed to be smart, and educated, and trained; they should know that research takes time, and that getting blitzed because you only discovered dead aliens instead of live ones (on your very first day, no less) is unbelievably self-indulgent and stupid. Their character histories should demand that they know better, and the fact that they don’t is completely off-putting.

Okay, rant over.

Prometheus wasn’t all bad. There was one character with decent screen time who was also likable, even if his development wasn’t very deep. And Fassbender was very believably not quite human. The visuals were gorgeous; it looked like the opening sequence was filmed in Iceland, which is obviously one of the more ridiculously beautiful places on Earth. And fortunately, like Avatar but sadly few others, the 3D was done at the filming stage rather than in post-production.

So… yeah. I love science fiction, and I have nothing against horror, but I don’t think the conventions of each genre always mesh together in the right way.

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It's all a bit odd, isn't it?

So, Prometheus was… pretty good, all things considered.

I’ll preface this by saying I am a HUGE fan of Ridley Scott’s, and it’s safe to say that he’s my favourite director whether it’s sci fi he’s making or comedies.

That said, I had my doubts as soon as the movie started. I don’t like the ‘alien creator’ theory or whatever it’s called, and I don’t like when people inject gods into science. It’s just… not my cup of soup. So when I realized, at the opening scene, that that is what the movie was going to be based in, I began to wonder how much I’d like this movie. ESPECIALLY after they found the dig site and I realized their entire trip was going to be based on the possibility that an alien lifeform created humans.

Of course, that turned out to be true, but that’s movie logic for you.

All-in-all, though, it was a great sci fi horror film. I squirmed and closed my eyes at the body horror everyone seemed to undergo. ESPECIALLY Shaw, when she was in the surgery pod and was having the alien parasite cut out of her. To me, as a woman, that was HORRIFYING. I loved it.

There were some obvious bumps in the logic of the film (how did David hide the vial of black goo? why did no one seem concerned that Shaw just cut an alien parasite out of her? why did no one bother to contain it? and other little bits like DON’T TAKE YOUR HELMET OFF THE HULL OF THAT SHIP IS COMPROMISED THERE IS NO ATMOSPHERE) but none so major that it disrupted the film or jarred the audience out of immersion.

The one thing I came out not understanding, though, was the black goo—well, the zombies, in particular. It was pretty clear from the beginning (especially the ominous atmosphere in the crypt) that the black goo was bad, and it became even more obvious once it began twisting the DNA of the worms into giant bone-breaking parasites. So what was up with the zombies? Fifield became one and (failingly) attacked the ship, and Holloway was infected with the black goo and was slowly becoming like Fifield. It certainly wasn’t anything like the opening sequence. The two humans weren’t becoming weaker, they were very obviously becoming stronger as infection ensued. So… why? It never pops up again in the Alien mythos, and it didn’t have much of an impact on the contained story of Prometheus unless the point was “this is dangerous”. Which… we already very obviously gathered.

And why did David see fit to infect Holloway with it? To confirm it was a weapon? Was he ordered by Weyland? Was that another point of the theme of Maker vs. Creator, where it became obvious an android could have his or her own agenda? I don’t know. As a viewer of Alien, it’s obvious that androids can have their own agenda and (in later films not directed by Ridley Scott) that they can be unaware of their inhumanity.

Either way, I truly enjoyed the film. Perhaps the blemish I just discussed is simply me not understanding the film well.

As an addendum, I also really enjoyed the acting. Noomi Rapace, Idris Elba, Michael Fassbender and Charlize Theron were all amazing, as well as those not named. I’ll love seeing further films of theirs after Prometheus.

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prometheus!

(i guess you probably don’t want to read this unless you’ve seen it)

pretty darn good! highlights:

creepy blonde cyborg fassbender
PREGNANCY BODY HORROR yessssss - complete with self surgery
seeing it in imax 3d - i was afraid i would be overwhelmed, and i was a bit motion sick at first, but you get used to it very quickly. i honestly can’t imagine seeing it any other way. you get the full intensity and feeling of vastness this way.
idris elba
the way it was so intense the entire time!
good gore, too
me spilling diet coke all over my lap and pretzel nuggets before the thing even started - oh jk that sucked

you can totally tell damon lindelof wrote it, because there’s a lot of half-assed, obvious questions about faith. overall, pretty darn good!

(upon rereading this, i realized i accidentally used the phrase “pretty darn good” twice to describe how i feel about this movie. so, i guess it’s true)

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LET’S TALK ABOUT PROMETHEUS

clearly this post has spoilers although spoilers are not so massive in this film because SPOILER it’s way more about the visual a lot of the time but uh if you plan on seeing it, i’m about to talk about all the SPOILER death.

IT WAS COOL MAN SO COOL right what i’m getting from it though is it’s kind of less about the aliens and more about the nature of species and belonging and family and all that.

like, hot guy who charlize theron will later blast to death with a flamethrower is really mean to DAVID who is actually maybe the central character apart from noomi rapace who i believe is genuinely now typcast as ‘lady who can withstand mortal injury enough to jump huge and unbelievable distances whilst covered in blood’ i mean holy hell is she a badass in disguise okay anyway so let’s talk about DAVID

the whole lead up to this i was thinking, reviewers, please shut the f&#! up about michael fassbender, HE’S NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS FILM!!, and i refused to go in there with the preconception that he’s the greatest actor of all time like everyone else seemed to, but, he kind of stole the show a tiny bit. the film may as well have been called, ‘a film about michael fassbender’s search for a family, disguised by alien births’, but ‘prometheus’ is a tiny bit catchier. so. SPOILER: michael fassbender is a damn good robot. and SO SO SO reminiscent of david bowie in ‘the man who fell to earth’ i mean they’ve even got the same weird rentboy haircut going on only david 8 is a tiny bit neater and less cocaine-addled. but no less sinister! no less sinister at all. do you know who he is less sinister than? he is less sinister than charlize theron. as i may have mentioned- flamethrower-weilding daddy-issue-ridden possible AI abuser charlize theron in her freaky silver suit is stunningly dark and scary and horrible and she’s a fantastic character, only, she gets killed in a slightly disappointing way. (relatively- she gets crushed to death by an alien spacecraft. in context it’s disappointing. maybe out of context not so.)

i’m so bad at these so here are some awards:

best character: david 8. david 8 is an android who is kind of bullied by most people on the ship which kind of turns him a little bit evil but that’s only because they don’t understand that he can actually feel emotions so stop making comments about how he wants to be a real boy damnit!!

best death: the first two deaths were f#%@#&! gross and also sumptiously alien-film-genre if you get what i mean. a space worm goes up in a guy’s arm and through his mouth and all that s$#! like general tip?? STAY THE f&#! AWAY FROM EELS i mean i have a phobia i can barely face them in aquariums i have no idea why he didn’t just run the f&#! away but yes. and the other guy gets suffocated by his helmet melting into his face. ew.

(most satisfying death: vickers (theron) is such a d*** you kind of want to cheer when she dies. also weyland’s death is pretty satifying too.)

best horrific scene of ew and gory: when elizabeth gets pregnant with a horrible alien baby and then basically gives herself a cesarian via charlize theron’s creepy robot surgeon machine and she can only get local anaesthetic so she SEES IT ALL HAPPEN and then the worst part is actually when the stuff containing the alien baby breaks as she’s still in the robot and she gets covered in blood and fuckloads of tentacles emerge. i think her womb might actually get removed. and she has to tear off the umbilical cord thing. EUGH.

most badass character: elizabeth when she post-stomach operationally JUMPS OVER A HUGE CHASM OF DOOM

scene that would have been ace to see in 3D: weyland’s hologram speech at the beginning

other benefits of 3D: none

most unexpected casting: guy pearce as mr creepy and old, instead of hot male lead. WOAH!!

best cool groovy awesome effects moment: in second place- the beginning scene with the alien dying and the view of his bloodstream etc etc. this actually loses points because of its lack of relevance in the rest of the film. the part that actually wins for me is the part where hot male lead looks in the mirror and sees a tiny little silver alien sperm thing or whatever in his eye. it’s f#%@#&! gross, and also awesome.

best cool groovy awesome sci fi moment: david activating the engineers’ holodeck thingy. with the planets, and the destruction, and the 3D psychopath map- oh man. holographic orgasm.

best bitchface: vickers, when weyland says ‘david is the closest thing i’ve ever had to a son’

most kind-of emotional moment: when the alien strokes david’s face, and he looks happy because he’s found his family, and then the alien tears his head off!! whatthefuck!! how mean!!

most emotional moment: charlie’s death and elizabeth passing out from sadness and then waking up to discover david being creepy and the fact that she is with tentacle child.

craziest holy-f&#! moment: when elizabeth gets back to prometheus to discover hey alien baby has mutated and then she f#%@#&! GETS THE ALIEN GUY INTO THE ALIEN ROOM AND HE f#%@#&! DIES, AW YEAH

some spoilers: the alien, from alien, the pointy blue head one, right, is sort of referenced at the end. weyland is vickers’s father. david isn’t all nice, BUT NEITHER WOULD YOU BE GODDAMNIT. noomi rapace is awesome. OH WAIT.

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Prometheus

Directed by: Ridley Scott

Written By: Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof (LOST!!!)

Starring: Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce, Idris Elba (Stringer Bell!!), Charlize Theron, Noomi Rapace

My Tagline: In space, no one can hear you say “This isn’t a prequel to Alien.”

Alien and Aliens ruined a large section of Hollywood. From the moment we saw a take charge Ripley and a “ragtag team of Marines full of personality” kick green tail, Hollywood has been using that template ever since. Horribly, I may add. But after years of wack ass sequels, crossovers, and nerd fan fiction, the director of the original Alien, Ridley Scott has decided that he’s gonna bring it all back to the essence. But wait, an Alien prequel without an Alien? Say whaat??!?

In 2089, cute as a button archaeologist Elizabeth Shaw and Charlie Holloway discover a set of drawings with giant alien creatures on them. Strangely enough, they match about six other sets of star map drawings from different parts of the globe from different periods of Earth’s history. A mysterious company funds a trip through the galaxy to where the giant beings seem to be inviting us to. Ummm wait, it IS an invite, isn’t it?

Ridley Scott and the writers have made something so epic, yet so hollow. Grandiose, yet small and familiar at the same time. Strange and foreign, yet strangely familiar. The visuals, costumes, and cinematography are all top notch. It was every geek’s dream! It looked like what we wanted was finally coming to fruition. But after it was all over .. it felt like it missed something entirely. I love the Alien mythology, and was highly anticapting this .. whatever 20th Century Fox is calling it. Prometheus has all of the little nuances of an Alien movie: Androids, chest busting, acid spitting, hidden agendas. But it just didn’t feel right. I think I know what was missing. TERROR. I don’t know if It’s because we’ve been through it all before or what, but there was no “fear of what’s around the corner (or in someone’s stomach) in this movie. There was no feel of dread, doom, or fear in this two hour space epic. In Alien and James Cameron’s Aliens, there was always a “these guys are so f&%$#&” cloud looming over the whole adventure. In Prometheus, it’s just not there. But what IS there is something very by the numbers. Something we’ve seen too many times in these type of movies. Group of people enter someplace they aren’t supposed to enter, touch some things they aren’t supposed to touch, things go wrong, people die, people start infighting, blah blah blah. And THAT, my readers, is what’s wrong with Prometheus. It’s a cliché. With all the big ideas and bigger budget, it says the same s$#! as almost every other movie of its ilk.

Well, at least the tangibles are on point. Like I said, the look and feel of it is grand and beautiful. Ridley and crew really put their foot in this movie. The special effects and sound are top notch, and pulls you into this world that Ridley and friends have imagined. The acting is actually really, really strong in this, especially Noomi Rapace (original Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) and Michael Fassbender, who throw everything they have into this film and really get into their roles. The failure is the script. I wanted to say that Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof had a massive fail at this screenplay, but then I thought about it. What the hell is there left to say about the Alien franchise or the whole space exploration gone wrong sci fi / horror / thriller genre? It’s been done all ready over and over. Maybe they figured they had to hit certain beats to keep the Alien franchise lovers with a nerd woodie. But those beats just tease us. Everything else is by the numbers. If you take out the familiarity of the Alien movies, this turns into a run of the mill sci fi movie. A very expensive, run of the mill sci fi movie.

I wanted this to be classic. I did!! This wasn’t one of those, “oh well aint s$#! else to do, might as well go see that movie they keep showing the commercial for” trips to the cinema. Prometheus was going to wipe the taste of all those bad sequels right out of our collective geek mouths. It looked so full of promise. And they had the right people involved. People who loved the mythology. Too bad they didn’t work on the 2nd half of the screenplay as much as they did on everything else.

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June 9
Joining The Prometheus Conversation

I didn’t want to, but I’m joining the conversation.

For some reason, and for first time in the director’s career, the social streams have gone a-buzz for a new Ridley Scott film. That’s what a franchise does to a film: It gets people, who previously wouldn’t have cared, talking and blogging. It’s also the damage and the reason why Prometheus will never be celebrated.

Prometheus will never be Alien.

Prometheus is the prequel-(ish) to the world-wide celebrated 1979 sci-fi classic, Alien. But here we’re carried into a different direction, with a different cast, different characters and a different genre - just the same big-ol’ universe.

In Prometheus we’ve got a new spaceship full of a trucker-esque crew and Charles Darwin-wannabe biologists. We’re off to a strange far-away planet to “find our makers”.

The movie started life fighting against a storm of expectation and that’s made audiences turn and revolt. In every way that Prometheus differs from Alien, it finds it’s strengths. Alien is a film about the crew running from the monster; Prometheus is biologists seeking the madness and asking questions. Although, the answers that we receive range from the fascinating to the absurd.

Haters gonna hate. But Prometheus was the bomb.

If you’re willing to look beyond the croaky exposition dialogue and bumbling back-story, then instead indulge into some enthralling cinema where you’ll find something totally new. You’ll find some nail-biting action, some big sci-fi ideas, and one helluva performance from Michael Fassbender.

In the same franchise-filled weeks where you’re looking at Men In Black 3 and Battleship in the summer cinema, Prometheus is the only brave movie who is the only one willing to challenge the audience with a couple of new ideas.

This might not be what you wanted from a Alien prequel but be thankful what you got, because this certainly ain’t Star Wars The Phantom Menace.

FINALLY

If Prometheus was never related to Alien then it would be loved and celebrated that smart science fiction is back at our doorstep: but due to it’s famous older brother it’s looked down upon as a sick repetitive mess. Don’t be the over-analysing critic. Instead get to your local cinema and enjoy because Prometheus is a 124 minute ride of fun.

★★★★☆

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Spoiler-free Prometheus review

Firstly, have to say that Prometheus is not a prequal to Alien, despite what every-f#%@#&!-body has been saying: it’s more along the lines of a movie that takes place in the same universe as Alien. Ridley Scott’s said like a dozen times that it’s not meant to be a prequel in the purest sense, it just takes place in the same universe and has some aspects to it that cross to Alien but it’s a whole new mythology in that universe. So if you’re a buttmad fanboy who hates any change or addition to canon you shouldn’t be too buttmad at this.

I saw this movie in IMAX and this is actually the first IMAX film I’ve seen. I have to say it was worth the extra money just because of how gorgeous this f#%@#&! film is: the opening scenes panning over an empty earth-like vista (believe filme in scottland and iceland and s$#!) was amazing, and of course seeing my waifu in glorious IMAX was pants-jizzing.

That is the one thing this movie has going for it: the visuals. The shots are gorgeous and the directing is amazing. As I said, believe this was filmed in Scotland and Iceland and the like, and I am a huge sucker for natural vistas (one of the reasons I can watch the Twilight movies). The sets are well made and well done, and yes, there are some giger-esque sets in this movie, don’t worry your little buns.

One thing that pleasantly surprised me was how good the creature/other effects were. I have become very jaded towards effects in movies, especially after s$#! like the thing prequal and the wolfman remake etc. MOVIE MAKERS TAKE NOTE: THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT RIGHT. THIS. PROMETHEUS. SERIOUSLY.
They used an amazing mixture of practical effects and CGI and it blends seamlessly. Everything looks “real” and not obviously CGI like you poor souls are used to. Things look gritty and goopy and there is a decent amount of gore. The costumes are gorgeous and I can only theorize on some of the creature effects;probably just some clever angles or something.

Okay, so now let’s talk about the actors and characters. I have to say, Noomi fans, Shaw isn’t really the main character in a sense. David, Michael Fassbender’s character, is. Now, I know some may disagree, and yes Shaw is the main in a classic sense, but David is really the backbone of the progression of the story, and Shaw is more…kind of there to see everything go to hell. I guess kind of like Ripley was in the first movie, but still David was really the main vantage point. Fassbender does an amazing job as usual and is the best character in the movie (not hard to say as you’ll see) and Noomi was fantastic as well and also as per usual. I got really attached to both of them and fell in love with Shaw very fast.
I’d talk about the other characters, like Charleze Theron’s, but no one else really has any development or defining traits at all. Theron’s character is rather predictable and has a lot of interesting plots that could have been explored but weren’t. Holloway or whatever was also alright I guess as was the captain, but niether really have a lot happen. The other characters are all essentially red-shirts, with the biologist being buttfuck retarded.

That is the main issue with this film: the characters. There were like, 17 people on the ship and we ever really get to know like 6 of them, only 4 getting a lot of s$#!. Some characters don’t even really get a passing notice of their existance by anyone else on the ships crew, it seems really odd.
What really, really bothered me was the dialouge for some of the characters and especially the science stuff. None of the scientists act like scientists. They don’t follow proper procedure and want to touch everything like a child. They use odd terms for things, the most glaring is using the word darwinism and not theory of evolution/etc. Darwinism is not evolutionary theory. Also, the biologist in this is seriously pants-on-head retarded, the geologist dude not being much better. There’s also some odd OOC stuff later on in the movie.
Good characterization is important for a movie like this because if we don’t get to know the characters, we don’t empathize with them when we see what they go through. We don’t fear for them, we don’t root for them, we don’t feel anything if/when they die, etc. As I mentioned, I did indeed grow to like the main characters right away, but couldn’t care less about anyone else.

Now, since this is spoiler-free I cannot really delve into the plot. What I will say is that I was surprised by the christian mythology throughout but pleasantly surprised. If you’re an lolsoedgy christianity sucks type of faggot you might be a bit pissed when/if you realise some of the symbols, but otherwise it’s very well done and I reall enjoyed the theme.
This movie tries to bring up some interesting philosophy but doesn’t do a great job of it, which brings me to another point: the films pacing seems off at parts. Some stuff seemed too short and awkward and felt as if major bits had been cut. I really hope we get a directors cut of this. The pacing is especially bad in the last bit of the film and feels like a lot was cut.
Otherwise, I was very satisfied with the plot, even though absolutely nothing surprised me, althought that may just be my familiarity with tropes and symbols. I’m not sure if you’ll enjoy it more or less not being an Alien fan, and some have said that they had to explain some things to their friends who had not seen Alien, but then again Alien is kind of confusing with no explanations the first viewing either.

If you’re not a fan of horror movies you’re in luck: this isn’t very scary or gorey. At all. Yes, I am a desensitised sick f&#! and very little scares me, but still. I wish this had gotten an R rating as some of the gore seemed cut to me as well. There is one…surgery scene that everyone is apparantly getting all squicky about and said it bothered them, and yeah, looking back I guess it was; I’m just so used to seeing things like that that to me it was like “holy f&#! those effects are awesome” etc.
I have to say the “surgery” scene was one of my favorite scenes in the film and was very well shot, acted, and very nice effects. It was also pretty creepy in every way; body horror, gore etc. It’s the goriest scene I guess. And yes, this movie has lots of body-horror, so prepare for that.

This is similar to Alien in a lot of ways, especially main plot-happenings and such, but you don’t have to be a fan to enjoy it, or a horror movie fan. Alien is a legit horror scifi filled with isolation and terror of unknown and almost devoid of hope; Prometheus is more of a philosophically based sci fi with some stuff we know exists in the universe from watching the Alien series, but not completely devoid of hope or full of horror. Both are fufilling in their own right and do it well.

I reccomend you see this flick if you’re a Noomi fan, Fassbender fan, Alien fan, scifi fan, horror fan etc. It was amazing in 3d as well.

tl;dr: Prometheus is a really good movie that was very well shot but weirdly edited, had good themes but sub-par execution at parts, excellent writing but bad dialogue, and had god-tier special effects, but without much meaning to them. I am a bit confused about how amazing some of the movie is while some of it is pulled off so retardedly.

Is it an amazing, 10/10 amazing god-tier mind blowing mind-changing movie? Not really. Did I adore it with all my heart, have a great time being totally engrossed, and consider it a worthwhile addition to the canon? f&#! YES!

I’m only giving it a 7.5/10 for now if you really want numbers, but if/when the director’s cut is released, as most scott films are, it will probably be a 9.5/10 or even 10/10.

GO SEE IT.

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Prometheus spoilers: haiku style

HOLY f&#! ALIEN BABY
SURPRISE ABORTION! YOU’RE f&%$#&
OH s$#! OH s$#! WHY

Michael Fassbender
is one scary piece of work
be nice to robots

Wow you guys are cool
Wait why are you splitting up
funny guys die first

Charlize Theron, you
are a hot babe but you’re slow
next time, roll sideways

Noomi Rapace is
a motherf@#$%#@! BADASS
staples in her side

HAVING SEX IS NOT
WORTH IT GUYS, YOU KNOW THE RULES
GET SOME, THEN YOU DIE

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too many aliens

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Prometheus
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The spacegirl who played with fire
May 30th 2012 By Jonathan Crocker

He refused to show us an Alien in the sensational trailers (‘Aaaaah! Aaaaah!’), he wouldn’t even use the word ‘Alien’ in the title, but Ridley Scott gives us one almost immediately in Prometheus’ opening scene. Not the kind you’re expecting, mind. 


Breathtaking stereoscopic shots swoop across a gorgeous landscape. Black mountains wreathed in volcanic steam, glassy lakes and, at the top of a crashing waterfall, a tiny man. Only he’s not tiny. He’s not a man. Like an extra-terrestrial Greek titan, this tower of muscle flexes inside smooth pale skin. And then dies.


Creation and destruction are the twin-burners of Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof’s ambitious screenplay, which bricks up an epic new mythology around the tantalisingly unexplained image of the space jockey in Scott’s original 1979 space-horror. 



It’s 2093, three decades before Ellen Ripley’s first bug-hunt, and we’re aboard another starship funded by sinister mega-corporation Weyland Industries. Joining the 17-man crew are scientist couple Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and Charlie (Logan Marshall-Green), who’ve discovered that etchings from every ancient civilisation on Earth have all left clues to the same faraway planet.

Their mission: to discover where we come from – and why.

Once they touch down, we’re on familiar ground: the crew begin exploring a giant hollow labyrinthine of tunnels and, uh-oh, something sticky leaking from countless cylinders stored deep within one of the chambers...

Game over, man, game over. But if we’re been here before, Prometheus inhabits the host mythology without becoming suffocated by it. Pulling its own twists on many of the queasier elements of the quadrilogy, it tightens its grip slowly, making us wait until what’s out there gets in here. 


Proving how wasted she was in Sherlock Holmes: Game Of Shadows, Rapace is a gentle, driven proto-Ripley who mirrors nicely with Charlize Theron’s glacial mission leader Meredith Vickers, strutting tightly in a witty silver-grey suit.

But it’s the brilliantly constructed character of Prometheus’ android – sorry, synthetic person – David (Michael Fassbender) that provides much of the movie’s dramatic frisson. We first discover him alone on the ship, spinning a basketball on his fingertip, bleaching his hair and - in the movie's loveliest invention - studying Peter O’Toole’s performance in Lawrence Of Arabia. 


Owning every scene he steps into, Fassbender once again proves a truly magnetic screen presence, balancing Bishop’s even-mannered likeability with Ash’s unsettling lack of empathy.

Now if only they’d cast O’Toole himself as Peter Weyland instead of Guy Pearce, unrecognisable behind melty-faced prosthetics.

“I didn’t think you had it in you,” quips David, in a wry moment that Prometheus could have used more of.

Truth be told, the rest of the cast – Idris Elba’s effortlessly sardonic captain aside – are bug food for the film’s skin-crawlingly effective antagonists. Ooze trickles, tentacles coil and gore splatters, not least in the movie’s standout scene, involving Noomi Rapace and some desperate surgery.


Back in the sci-fi genre for the first time since 1982’s Blade Runner, director Ridley Scott has always been more at home with Big Spectacle than Big Ideas. And sure enough, once people start dying, Prometheus’ ambitious thematic payload goes straight out of the airlock.

But Scott's movie is flawlessly designed, with the beautiful 3D cinematography contrasting the clean white futurism of Prometheus' interiors with the black corporeal surfaces of the alien catacombs.



It might not pack the unbearable menace or blazing horror of the saga’s first two movies, but it utterly eclipses the last two. It’s exciting, tense and fully impregnated for sequels…

Verdict:

You can relax. Prometheus is very good. Not as frightening as Alien, not as thrilling as Aliens, but a 3D sci-fi blockbuster that’s easily the saga’s most spectacular entry.

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Jun 09 2012 ∞
Space Ham: The Story of Prometheus

I fear that Ridley Scott is become George Lucas. He’s certainly has taken up the same sort of ailment - that strange disease that shows you to be, in truth, a poor directory/producer when given free reign of your own enterprises. Yes Ridley Scott, academy award winning Ridley Scott, Gladiator, Alien, and Bladey Blade Blade Runner Ridley Scott. Give him a blank slate and we discover he’s just a kid with crayons.

Poor crew of the Prometheus. The immediate events preceding the story must be put simply: an aged, death-fearing Guy Pierce assembles what could only be considered the most inept team of (vaudevillian) scientists to man a mission to find the fountain of youth. And what is that fountain? Evidently, it’s a hoped for conversation. That’s it. A trillion dollar missive that will hopefully result in an ancient race of human-makers looking at an old man and saying, “Verily, age does not become you, let me fix that with this DNA gun.”

Poor poor crew. Why are they here? Why are they doing that? Why aren’t they doing this? There’s a team of sorts: plucky, religious Elizabeth Shaw who has the exact same kind of devout Hollywood faith one sees in a Schwarzenegger movie. Thankfully, she keeps a cross around her neck to make sure we don’t forget that. Her ill-fated beau is Charlie. He doesn’t believe in God, but does believe that conversations about not being able to have children will turn women on (and he’s right). And then there’s the others, a veritable “all the rest here on Gilligan’s island.” I’m sure they have names but I forgot them five minutes in. The soul-talking, concertina playing captain and his henchmen, fuzzy-face biologist and Mohawk geologist who loves rocks, you know, because he’s a geologist. Crack is wack yo.

Anyway, they all die - except Shaw. Spoiler alert. And for the most part they all die stupidly. I think that “ending” was the ice-breaker in the first script writing session. Sadly, it’s the clear plot of a B-horror movie that just happens to have a summer blockbudget. Too bad too - cause as we all know, B-horror isn’t about plot, it’s about setup. Assemble a troope of characters no one likes. Arrange a series of gruesome deaths. Manipulate the plot to put said characters in the path of said deaths. Fin. Intrigue? Mystery? Yeah, sort of, but that’s just a ruse. There’s no inward-facing resonance at the end of this movie, just annoyance, and it’s all because thereisno mystery. You fast forget about all of the so-called revelations that were shoehorned into the plot when you realize that they’re just fluff. It’s about the death scenes. After a week of script revisions dusted with weed and spattered with redbull stains, what’cha got? Agendas, secret family ties, capitalist self-interest, laws of robotics, conditioned ontology, death parallelism, nihilism vs spiritualism, the irony of barrenness, dangers of drugs, arrogance of the wealthy … yeah, take all that and put it on a shelf. Here’s the thing, we need one guy snaked to death, one guy melted, one guy burned, one guy turned into a bearded zombie, one alien birth, one (or four) deaths by hubris, one “noble” sacrifice and … oh yeah, one squish by heavy thing. Movie.

Is it worthwhile to ask the question, “why are these people here?” Nope. How about “why is «character» motivated to do «asinine thing»?” Nope. What about, “how does that make sense scientifically?” Don’t even think about it. Charlize Theron wears a bodysuit throughout the movie. That’s the revelation, not only of this movie but likely of Lost too. All you needed was one Alien fan to sit in the back and chime in for continuity’s sake. Some nerd who was vocal enough to help smooth out the links between this movie and the others. It doesn’t have to be functional biology, linguistics, archeology, fecund logistics, or stellar cartography; it just has to be consistent biology, linguistics, archeology, fecund logistics, or stellar cartography. Sadly, it is not.

The true “plot” that underlies the movie’s over-arching themes and, conveniently, the solution to Scott’s desire for mystery is, of course, space ham. As in the first alien movie, we are come face to face with the deplorable problem that a life form doubles, quadruples and magnitudes its body mass in a matter of hours, without an intake of equal parts matter. A foreboding science question, true, and since this movie isn’t about plausibility, it’s practically a crime for me to even not it. But there is an elegant foundation here, one that solves multiple problems.

All we must assume is that, off camera, while nursing baby aliens and cephalopods in their bellies, victims of said squishies develop insatiable cravings of space ham, which they eat in alarming quantities, emptying the ship larders in minutes and not noticing what they’ve done due to the well-documented amnesic qualities of space ham. In fact, if you recast the Alien franchise as a corporate plot to remove a burdensome surplus of ham from the earth, then everything falls into place. Now it makes sense. Xenomorophs as weapons? Hard prey? Fountain of Youth? Alien weaponry? Origin of mankind? As substrates, they’re all so clunky. Synthesize everything with a quest to unload pork and, at the same time, rid the earth of annoying people and - boom - you’ve got a real believablefranchise on your hands.

Poor Ripley: one of the greatest sci-fi characters of all time and a personal hero. It’s a good thing that she never discovered the truth. It would break her heart more than anything else that happened to her.

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Prometheus: A Spolier Free Review

The film was superb. In all areas Mr. Scott did amazing things, from script, to cinematography, to the use of non-cheasy 3D effects. It was all done at the highest level of anything I’ve ever seen. Avatar (James Cameron’s Film) came into a close second.

I am a scary movie junkie, I love to get the s$#! scarred out of me, and not be able to sleep for a week. That being said, I cannot consider this film a horror film. It is a thriller. A thriller that will keep you on the edge of your seat until they literally roll the credits.

Acting: 10

Cinematography (Effects): 9

Enjoyability: 8

Overall: I give the film an 8.5 out of a possible 10. So many intense moments, so many laughs, screams, just such a damn good film, but it left a few unanswered questions. Which may have been artistic intent, to leave the viewer wondering, but that doesn’t change it could had thrown a nod in there before waiting for the next movie.

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PROMETHEUS Explained (Spoilers)

I saw Prometheus yesterday, and it was great (go see it in IMAX 3D!) But a lot of people seem frustrated with the “ambiguity” of the plot, so I wrote a post to explain how I read the film, which seemed to answer every question it raised.

SPOILER WARNING

In greek myth, Prometheus was a titan who created man from clay, which pleased the gods, then gave man fire, which angered them, because the gods determined that man didn’t merit having fire. So Prometheus was fated to have his stomach eaten open by birds every day. (Note also that one uses fire to make things from clay.)

Now to the film:

There is an inter-galactic religion founded on the principle of sacrificing yourself in order to create the next generation of life, instead of sacrificing the potential of the next generation to selfishly prolong your own life. This religious meme carries with it technology: a “black goo” which acts as a multiplier of your nature. Which is to say, contact with it makes you stronger and more resilient, unless you willfully die by consuming it, in which case it will destroy you, and make your GENES strong and resilient, allowing them to spread and replicate, populating an entire world. It can be used, therefore, for creating or destroying — like fire.

(In the metaphor, the Black Goo is “fire” and Genes are “clay”.)

A member of the religion will go to a newly terraformed (oxygenized) world, meditate on the virtue of self-sacrifice, and consume the black goo, ritually destroying his own life in order to populate an entire planet. (This happens in the first scene, where an immortal Promethean kills himself to create life on earth.)

Then his fellows will return periodically to guide the new race, until they are ready to join the religion, and in turn sacrifice themselves to populate new worlds, expanding life, and the cycle continues from race to race, world to world.

The Promethean religion has a ‘god’ and a ‘devil’. The ‘god’ is what results from selfless interaction with the goo: a man being destroyed in order to create life. (We see this image on the “Sistine Chapel Mural” in the ship’s “chapel”.) The ‘devil’ is what results from selfish interaction with the goo: an evil Alien (ala the movie ‘Alien’) that is unkillable and selfishly destroys everything else. (We see this crucified as a sculpture in the ship “chapel”).

2000 years ago, the immortal Prometheans returned to earth to invite humanity to join their religion. But humanity wanted no part of it. Despite spending millenia worshipping these giant blue gods and the idea of honorable sacrifice, the meme of selfishness had infected humanity. They killed the Prometheans’ self-sacrifice-preaching emissary (Jesus), and their negativity and selfishness infected black goo on the ship.

The ship returned home, carrying infected black goo, which in turn infected the Prometheans on board, giving birth to some kind of Alien monster, which chased and killed all but one of them. Having tried to give ‘fire’ to the humans too early, he stayed trapped in his ‘cave’ as punishment, waiting to correct his error.

2,000 years later, humanity has returned. But within humanity there are two factions: The first selfishly try to lengthen their own life at the expense of others. (These are the proverbial ‘devil virus’). They are embodied by Wayland, who is using technology to continue his own life instead of letting the next generation take over. The second faction of humanity have embraced the concept of self-sacrifice: Dr. Elizabeth Shaw, and christians, who worship the martyred Promethean, Jesus.

Wayland’s daughter, trying to talk reason to him, says “a king has his reign, and then he dies.” Wayland reacts with digust: his true child is David, “the closest thing I have to a son”. David exists only to serve Wayland; a truly, purely selfish intellect, with none of Shaw’s “emotional” reasons for embracing or believing in the value of martyrdom.

When they enter the tomb/ship, David understands the nature of the Black Goo, and decides to create a new form of life “because he can”. A purely selfish monster, to send back to earth to destroy humanity (“kill his parents”). He can secretly do this because it doesn’t directly conflict with his programming, and, unlike humanity, he does not experience emotions (such as pain: “the trick is not caring that it hurts”.)

Meanwhile, everyone to come in contact with the black goo becomes more powerful and resilient— the worms become snake monsters, the verbally aggressive mohawk geologist dude becomes a physically aggressive superkiller— only Shaw’s lover dies from it, because he consumed it, and because he sacrifices himself to save her— being burned with fire.

When the last surviving Promethean is awakened by Wayland and his son David, he sees an old man, asking how he can prolong his life. The Promethean is disgusted and horrified: this is the exact poison, the devil they wanted to destroy by purging earth before it could spread. He realizes this when he sees David, Wayland’s invention and his ideal: a cold intellect that can live forever with no desire to sacrifice itself in order to promote life, because it lacks emotional empathy: caring about the pain of others.

So the Promethean tries to wipe this selfishness virus out of existence before it can meld with the black goo and become a devil.

Indeed, just as the Promethean treats unemotional human selfishness as a viral infection to be purged, David IS unemotional human selfishness. To him, emotional human martyrdom is the virus to be purged. (This couldn’t be spelled out more clearly than when he’s about to send monster-impregnated Shaw back to earth to infect and replace humanity and he takes Shaw’s cross away from her “because it may have contaminants”.)

David’s god is the Prometheans’ devil: the Xenomorph / Alien.

The ‘Alien / Xenomorph / devil’ born at the end of the film is a result of: The black goo, combined with human selfishness, combined with the immortal genetic superiority of the Prometheans.

To quote Ash, the robot from Alien 1979, it is: “The Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. I admire its purity. A survivor… unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality. “

It is David’s greatest creation.

Ok, that was my reading of Prometheus.

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Note that while Ridley Scott knows how to create truly incredible cinematic experiences, he apparently doesn’t understand the basic concept of evolution (as interviews with him bear out his cynicism that it could all happen “by accident”). If you came away questioning evolution or darwinism at all, I strongly recommend you read The Greatest Show On Earth by Richard Dawkins.

**PROMETHEUS SPOILERS ABOVE**

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Prometheus

Films rarely ask the big questions… cue Damon Lindelof’s involvement in Prometheus. The Lost writer rarely shies away from the existential pondering many refuse to consider. And for a film jumping off the Alien films, which this reviewer has never seen due to his contempt for pointless violence and excessive, chestbursting gore… Prometheus pleasantly surprises in its incorporation of the philosophical and spiritual into the science-fiction romp.

What if our creator was a more advanced sentient being? Are they God? What happens to your faith or lack thereof? And what if they intended to destroy us? What are we, if not insignificant, to the one who brought us into existence? Do we deserve answers from them? Does it matter what the answers are? Never did I expect myself to be brought into such a discussion when first entering the theatre.

Underneath the do-it-yourself alien abortion and the wrist-bending cobras, there is a worthwhile conversation amidst the literal gutwrenching.

I recommend you watch this movie. Forget what the killjoys say. They simply can’t understand subtext. Enter the theatre ready for something thought-provoking. With just enough carnage to satisfy your primal desires.

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365 FILMS CHALLENGE (2012)

017: Prometheus dir. Sir Ridley Scott

Rating: 7/10

Notes: With all the hype surrounding it, I tried very hard not to get my hopes up about this movie. I’m a huge fan of Ridley Scott, I think he’s a genius. For some reason, though, Prometheus didn’t have that same panache as Blade Runner, Alien, Gladiator, etc. That said, it was still a very good movie. I will probably be seeing it again before it leaves theaters, and after that it will be added on my blu-ray collection.

What I liked: The cinematography, lighting, CGI, sound effects, make-up, etc. Michael Fassbender’s performance as David 8. Basically David’s whole character in general (I won’t go into this now, but I will make a post eventually.) Noomi Rapace was utterly captivating, I loved her as Shaw. Idris Elba, Logan Marshall-Green, Rafe Spall, and Sean Harris were all fantastic. The aliens were fittingly disturbing as were the death scenes.

What I didn’t: Charlize Theron. She is such a fantastic actress, I was so surprised and horrified to see her entire performance fall flat. She over-acted and I was apathetic towards her character. I didn’t get her. Guy Pearce’s role felt contrived, and while his make up was well-done, this speech still sounded like that of a 45-year old man - making the aging seem fake. I’m afraid to say any more for fear of spoilers. The score was nice to listen to, but unoriginal - I felt like I’d heard it before numerous times. The scare factor was practically non-existant - which would’ve been ok if the suspense had made up for it.

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Thoughts on Prometheus

Err…this might be spoilery, and long. Its long.

1) Overall I enjoyed the movie, but I went into it with stupid high expectations, so here are my completely unqualified opinions!

2) It was visually stunning, and the score was gorgeous. No arguments there.

3) Michael Fassbender as David. Good god he can act! As far as I’m concerned, and I am biased, he stole the show. I cared more about his character, a non-human, than most of the human characters. His character had more depth than 90% of the cast.

4) I love Noomi Rapace’s character. I really appreciate that Ridley Scott creates and loves strong, bad-ass female characters. She didn’t want to run home after all that trauma, she wanted to carry on with what she was passionate about, even if the results could be terrifying. A +

5) I really appreciated the respectful discussion of faith in the film. As someone who struggles with the idea of faith, and belief, and religion it was nice to see the subject discussed intelligently and respectfully. “It’s what I choose the believe”. Very nice.

6) I honestly felt like of the 17 person crew, about 10 of them existed merely to die in some excruciating manner. Either there should have been less characters or more time should have been spent fleshing them out. I really didn’t care when half of them died, and their deaths (with the exception of the pilots) didn’t really further the plot except to make it more scary.

7) I think the movie was confused as to what it wanted to be. It was sort of a mash up between a body-horror movie (mutant fetus, mutated worms with acid blood that go down your throat…) like Alien and a philosophical sci-fi movie that wanted to exam really big ideas like, “What makes us human?”, “How far will we go scientifically to find the truth?”, “Should we create new life?”, along the lines of Sunshine. It just seemed very disjointed at times. I would have loved a terrifying horror film, or a really well thought out intellectual sci-fi. I’m not saying its impossible to do both, but I don’t think Ridley Scott accomplished this.

Cool Either there were too many plot lines, or they just didn’t make them very cohesive. I honestly think you could have cut out the “I can’t create life” sex scene (When she said that line I audibly groaned in theatre), the mutant fetus, the abortion scene, and the end where the giant facehugger rapes the ‘Engineer’ and creates the first baby Alien, and the movie would have been just fine without it. Possibly better. This arc served no purpose, in my mind, other than to connect Prometheus to Alien and to provide some body-horror scares.

Also, Guy Pearce wasn’t really necessary either. When it turned out he was alive on the ship and the entire motivation of Prometheus, and David’s actions was his search for eternal youth I DIDN’T CARE. I didn’t need to know why Charlize Theron’s character was so uptight. I accepted that David was communicating with people from earth who had different motives than the crew. I didn’t need to be introduced to a character to only have him die 20 minutes later as an example of why searching for eternal youth is pointless and vain.

Cool When Noomi Rapace screams ‘I want a Cesarian’. Who are we f#%@#&! kidding!? She wanted an abortion. Don’t be so PC Ridley Scott.

Aaaaaaaaaand done.

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Steve reviews: "Prometheus"

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So Alien is one of my favorite movies and easily one of the best sci-fi flicks I’ve ever seen. So when I heard that Ridley Scott was returning to the universe he created in 1979 for a sorta-prequel, I was pretty stoked. This movie had been hyped up by major fans of sci-fi, even more so than The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises. So does it live up to the hype?

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The movie starts off promising, introducing each and every passenger of the Prometheus in a way that was very similar to how we met the crew of the Sulaco in Aliens. Every crew member is instantly likable, especially the laid-back Captain Janek (Idris Elba), the paranoid hard-ass Fifield (Sean Harris), and the really-fun-to-watch Charlie Holloway (Logan Marshall-Green).

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Of course, the main characters of this space thriller are the “curious believer” Elizabeth Shaw (played by Noomi Rapace) and the android David (played chillingly by Michael Fassbender). Shaw is a believable heroine in this film, being a woman of faith who is suddenly brought face-to-face with a new possible origin for our species. Admittedly, a lot of the pain she goes through is rather…unrealistic, even for a sci-fi film, but Noomi plays the role with the same dedication she’s shown in her past films. She’s no Ripley, but she’s an…appropriate heroine for this story.

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Fassbender’s David is a different story, one that was at the same time fascinating and frustrating. David is an android, and we know that androids often have ulterior motives in Ridley Scott’s films. Unfortunately, you can see his particular ulterior motives coming from a mile away (unlike Ash’s in Alien).However, David is such a compelling character, constantly struggling with his own lack of humanity and his unorthodox curiosity. He’s a creepy character, one you can never really trust, and Fassbender plays the role with finesse.

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The best part about Prometheus is that it’s still classic Ridley Scott. Scott has a knack for creating films anyone can enjoy, while also throwing in an enormous mythology that only die-hard fans will ever understand. Watching Prometheus, you can see that the film is only skimming over the surface of said mythology. Scott ties in creatures and planets from the Alien franchise while also introducing brand new creatures and locations that will leave sci-fi fans drooling. Scott’s trademark set designs are also very present; the second the crew embarks into the underground tunnels of this mysterious planet, you’ll instantly spot alien technology and cave carvings that would feel right at home in an Alien film.

My favorite part of the film is that it slowly and meticulously shows the audience the actual origins of the “Aliens” (Xenomorphs) from the original film, without ever forgetting about its own story.

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Admittedly, however, the entire film left a lot to be desired. And I’m not even sure why. I guess it’s because it felt a bit jumbled near the end. Things were happening all over the place without any actual transitions, which made those scenes feel like a few pages of the script suddenly went missing. Some audience members might feel lost after a few revelations, especially if they didn’t pay extremely close attention to certain earlier scenes. And the concept of the “Engineers” (or, as longtime fans have called them, “Space Jockeys”) just wasn’t compelling enough to hold my attention. And for people looking for a sci-f-/horror flick like Alien, you won’t find that here. This is action and philosophy from opening credits to closing credits (not that that’s a bad thing by any means).

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A while ago, I reviewed the epic Disney bomb, John Carter. I gave it a decent review, praising the story and bashing almost everything else. Ridley Scott has returned to theaters to remind audiences how science-fiction is done, and Prometheus doesn’t disappoint…mostly. I, for one, was quite entertained. People who have been anticipating this film like it’s the Second Coming, however, might be a bit bummed out once the final credits start to roll.

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**no spoilers here**

The ENTIRE film, opening scene and Alien Quadrilogy make sense once they get to this room. And its only like 40 minutes into the film. What is so hard about this?

The reviews for Prometheus stating it asks a lot of questions but answers nothing confound my brain and prove that the American public school system is really failing hard. Same for 90% of the questions about the film. Especially the holographic ships log… I mean Jesus, Shaw even CALLS IT THAT…

A long tradition surrounding Scott’s work continues here. They called the original Alien merely “Jaws in space” at first. They didn’t get Blade Runner at first and now its considered one of the (and is sometimes argued THE) greatest science fiction film(s) of all time. Additionally, the first screenwriter of “Alien” considered the later added android Ash sub plot, you know, basically the entire reason the movie progresses, irrelevant and unnecessary and in Prometheus, you had an initial screen writer who thought small and then in came Lindelof who added and expanded most of android David’s role. In a few years, just like with Alien and Blade Runner, this will also get the full recognition it deserves for being an extremely brilliant science fiction film that fulfills every notion on what true science fiction aspires to be.

Its ALL there on screen. All of it. The motivations. The what. The why. The metaphors.

#1 Do not trust every character’s opinion on screen. Not all characters are devices to give you (the audience) fact. Some of them are simply talking out of their ass because they don’t know anymore than you do as events unfold.

#2 Science. Its not that hard. Primordial soup. That’s all you need to know.

W. T. F. people. For serious. No wonder we still have a “debate” (if you can call it that) against evolution in this country.

This film tackles all of the questions, ideas and moral quandaries of both Alien AND Blade Runner… and then some.

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Prometheus (2012)

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124 min

Starring: Noomi Rapace, Charlize Theron, Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce, and Idris Elba

Directed by: Ridley Scott (Aliens, Gladiator, Blade Runner, American Gangster, Black Hawk Down, Hannibal)

Genre: Sci-Fi, Action, Adventure

IMDB Grade: 7.8/10

Rotten Tomato Grade: 74%

Roger Ebert Grade: 4 out of 4 Stars

Plot: A team of scientist goes on a journey to find the origins of mankind.

Pros: Great 3D, Cast, Visual, Cinematography, Story, and Acting. Visually its beyond stunning (similar to Avatar) it really is a work of art

Cons: None for me

Favorite Scene: My favorite scene the last scene of the movie.

Favorite Quote: “My God, we were so wrong… ” Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace)

My Grade: A

My Thoughts: Sadly I’ve never seen Aliens but I’m a HUGE Ridley Scott fan. I’ve seen most of his movies and I love how almost all his movies are just beautifully made. Prometheus is no exception, it is one of the most beautifully shot movie I’ve seen since Avatar. What I liked about the movie was the story. Even though I dont personally believe in evolution (for humans) I thought the story was very interesting and entertaining. I also liked how I didnt know if the movie was going to be scary or just a regular sci-fi movie. In the end the movie to me was like watching an epic adventure on film. Its one of those few movies where your in awe for the entire movie and your just amazed that we live in a time where movies can look that great. I also really loved the acting. I thought Rapace gave a great strong performance, along with her other costars (Idris and Theron). The best performance had to be by Fassbender. His performance was just eerie and scary good. Anyways, this is one of the best films I’ve seen in a while and I PROMISE you that you’ll regret it if you dont watch it in theaters and in 3D.

Watch it, Rent it, or Skip it: Watch it. “Best movie ive seen since Avatar”

Lesson/Moral of the film: “Dont try to learn what you shouldnt learn”

Interesting Facts:

Scott loved Rapace performance in The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo series and offered her the role BUT she had to improve on her English in order to get the part
Guy Pearce studied the movement of old people in England to help him with the role
Natalie Portman, Anne Hathaway, Gemma Arteron, Carey Mulligan, and Abbie Cornish were all considered for the role
Rapace character name was Elizabeth. In her role in “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” her name was Lizbeth
The film was named “Paradise”
Scott claims that this wasn’t a direct prequel to Aliens
A sequel is still in talks
Movie was shot in entirely in 3D
James Franco was considered for the role of Holloway
Scott named the title Prometheus because of the mythology of the titan Prometheus summarized the movie
Scott wanted the cast to live inside the Prometheus set but this was canceled due to health reasons

Things I Learned:

If you ask a girl if she is a robot than she will have sex with you
Old people are selfish
Human androids like to touch things that shouldnt be touched
Dont drink or eat anything a human android gives you
Abortion in the future will be easy
Dont have sex in a different planet
If you see your friends in all fours than dont let him in
Dont ditch the group if you’re not sure how to get back
The rocker will never be friends with the nerd
Dont try to pet anything that resembles a reptile
A giant octopus can defeat the human creator
Dont awake sleeping giants
Basketball is fun when you’re bored
Sleeping for two years will cause vomit
When you are about to crash put your hands up
When you see a huge circular spaceship crashing down on you dont run in a straight line
Stop making fun of human androids because they might take it personally
One billion dollars to try to find the human creators is a fair price

Box Office:

Budget: 120–130 million Million

Grossed Revenue:67Million (2nd day release in America)

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Prometheus

Ah, the Alien franchise, I had some really good times with the original movies, Ridley Scott’s original Alien was a bit before my time, and I suppose the era that I was born prevented me from fully appreciating the thrills and chills that it delivered all the way back in 1979. But it was James Cameron’s sequel, the imaginatively titled “Aliens” that was what really made me fall in love, to this day I consider Aliens to be a perfect action film. Then the series was followed up with some pretty average, but enjoyable sequels, so when I heard about the sequel/prequel that was being made I was a tad suspicious, when I heard that Ridley Scott was at the helm I joined the many other legions of fans that have been impatiently anticipating Prometheus (And thus making it one of the most anticipated films of 2012).

In the original Alien, when the team investigates the deserted Alien ship, do you happen to remember a figure who was sitting in a large chair that had had his chest burst? It was never mentioned in the original film, but that figure has since to be known as ‘The Space Jockey’, ring any bells? Well anyway, Prometheus sets out to tell the story of that figure and how the ‘aliens’ came to be present on that ship.

The year is 2089 and a team of archeologists has just uncovered a series of cave paintings that hold a serious scientific anomaly, a figure on the cave walls is pointing to a cluster of stars, but the thing is; that the same figure and cluster has been found on cave paintings and engravings from all over the world. The conclusion; the paintings point to a planet many light years away from earth that may contain the answer to the biggest question that humanity has ever faced: What made us and why are we here?

A team, financed by the Weyland Corporation, make the two and a half year journey to the planet on a ship called…you guessed it: Prometheus. On board are the people who discovered the paintings, the religious archeologist Elizabeths Shaw (Noomi Repace, who was the original swedish Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) and her fellow archeologist and love intrest Charlie (Logan Marshall-Greene).

The trip is looked over by the cold Weyland Corporation representative Meredith Vickers (Charlize Theron) and the resident android on board is the well-to-do David (Michael Fassbender) who has chosen to make his personality resemble a character out of his favorite film; Lawrence of Arabia.

When the team hit the ground and start searching through a pyramid that they discover, it soon becomes clear that they have made a big discovery, one that may answer the question that they came to find; the origins of human existence. Yet at the same time, (To the surprise of exactly no one) they have stumbled onto something may spell the death of not only the crew of Prometheus, but the entire population of earth.

It is with a heavy heart that I say Prometheus is a mixed bag as both a science-fiction thriller and a film set in the Alien universe. Overall I had a good time with it, but with my awe of what I was given came with a fair amount of bitter disappointment as well. I’ll start with the strengths.

Visually, this is one of the best films I have ever seen. It has been a while since I’ve seen a film in 3D, and an even longer time since 3D made any sort of impression on me. But fear not, the 3D in Prometheus might be the best i’ve seen, maybe even better than my first viewing of Avatar, if you have the option, defiantly go for the extra dimension with this one. The film just looks magnificent from it’s opening moments to its closing, the CGI in both the landscapes and the space-ships is just incredible. The costumes, which mostly consist of space suits, all look fantastic.

Prometheus gave me such a sense of awe when it really shows the sheer scale presented here, I don’t think watching this at home would have the same effect, so try to catch this on the big screen.

The other major strength of this film is that fans of Alien will get the most magnificent rushes of nostalgia. When you see that title slowly revealing itself one line at a time you get that lingering feeling that you get from the opening of Alien, and even down to the design of the ships, seeing the crew wake up from hyper-sleep and all gather for a meal, glorious. But it’s when a character walked into a room that Alien fans will know well that the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, without giving anything away; I will never look at that space jockey the same way after this. The final ten minutes of Prometheus are just an Alien fans delight, when we see huge aspects of Alien begin to form it’s all I could have wanted from an Alien prequel.

However, the biggest problem that Prometheus has is the script. I can’t tell if it’s fully the fault of the script or it might possibly be the editing, but the second half of the film is just a mess. There are many things that needed to be explained better, and some that frankly don’t make sense. For example, the magnificent opening sequence has no explanation for what happened in it, nor any context to the rest of the film, which is just frustrating!

The script also makes characters do things that range from being unbelievable and silly, to some that frankly make no sense at all (Did they sleep together or not?).

As you might have guessed, for this is an Alien film after all, the sequences of suspense are pretty effective. There is one in particular involving abdominal surgery which is just shock and gory goodness. Very cleverly the film doesn’t try and scare the pants off you, for it would never be able to do that to a desensitized modern audience, but what it does do it deliver several great gory and jolting sequences, it does this exceedingly well.

I can’t say anything bad about any member of the crew for they all did a fine job, but no one went beyond being simply ‘good’ (Surprisingly not even Michael Fassbender, who I consider to be one of the greatest actors currently working in Hollywood). Once again the script is to blame, for many key characters are under-developed and most roles really didn’t have anything special to work with.

And finally, I don’t think that “cheated” is the right word for it, but for a film that is so heavily set in prequel territory, I really was not impressed for the blatant setting up for a future sequel.

In Summary: Prometheus is not a bad film, far from it, when it does something right it does it brilliantly, such as the awe-inspiring visuals and providing of glorious Alien nostalgia. Where it has a pretty significant fall is the script’s handling of the second half of the film, when story strands are left dangling and characters start doing things that have no proper reasoning behind them. So in the end, I’m very glad I saw Prometheus, the Alien fan in me left with a big smile on his face but I’m so disappointed that the film I waited so long and in such anticipation for was not better than what I was given.

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Prometheus: A Review
9 Jun

This is going to be an oddly serious one. So, let’s get all my ‘funny’ points out of the way first:

I love Michael Fassbender and I love his magic space flute
The inevitable Prometheus sequel should be a buddy comedy starring Shaw and David’s decapitated head. It will be called Prometheus 2: A-Head of the Times
So many smart scientists, so many stupid decisions made. “I know! Let’s poke the weird alien lifeform, I’m sure nothing bad will happen” etc.
I wish I had a robot friend whose head I could keep in a bag.
I really wish there hadn’t been that ‘heroic sacrifice’ scene as a way to kill off three characters who they didn’t know how to end.
On a related note, Charlize Theron really should have run to the side. “It’s slowly coming this way! Noooo!”
I never thought I would see a scene where a woman gives herself a robot c-section to get rid of a tentacle space monster. Thanks, Ridley!
I am upset that our creators are basically Lurch after he’s gone to the gym.

“I can benchpress 20 androids!”

Right, enough of that! Let’s talk serious.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film. Visually, it was stunning. An atmospheric and vibrant, unique world was created and in turn this formed a wonderfully immersive film. The soundtrack was great as well, it suited the film perfectly and bar a couple of cheesy moments it kept to the ‘space epic’ style brilliantly.

Michael Fassbender was wonderful. Somehow the cold android had the most depth and was by far the most interesting character in the film. He also put in the best performance. I still wanted him to succeed with whatever crazy plan he had right up to the end, because he was the only character with a complex personality. Credit also goes to Charlize Theron.

Plus, he has a MAGIC SPACE FLUTE!

I would say, though, that the rest of the performances weren’t great. I don’t think this was necessarily the fault of the cast per se, but that the script they were given seemed very direct. There wasn’t much room for character development and it seemed to me as if the film was primarily focused on the big picture rather than the little. In my humble opinion the little things like character as intensely important, even in films with such big concepts as this. Just look at, for instance, Sunshine, which created a whole cast of unique characters who you genuinely cared for. I could barely remember what the characters in Prometheus looked like, let alone remember their names or character traits.

I think a lot of this comes from the hybrid nature of the film. Is it a space exploration film? Is it a monster movie? Is it a straight-up action flick? It worked best with the first two parts – the opening scenes and the first hour of runtime was brilliant. The way the tension was built when exploring the derelict space craft was fantastic. The intensity up to the moment when they find the ‘worship room’ (filled with the black vases) was expertly done.

Creepy Space Crucifix?

After that point, though, there seemed to be a few annoying clichés that crept in. The two guys who get lost in the craft (I suppose) were obviously going to die from the moment they left the rest of the group. They then proceed to make the horrible decision to not run from the obviously creepy alien goo snake and, surprise surprise, try to touch it. That’s the kind of s$#! that gets you ganked in the Alien universe and it’s the kind of stupid curiosity you haven’t really seen in this universe up to this point.

From then on, the whole film appears a little rushed. You see the rest of the crew go to find them again, dickhead scientist man start turning into an orc and being set on fire by Charlize Theron (in a moment of rare intelligence for a character in Prometheus), Dr Shaw give herself a c-section to get rid of the tentacle baby from Men In Black, her randomly stumble across Weyland, have the shocking relevation that wrinkly Guy Pearce is Charlize Theron’s father (or is she? More on that later), them all go off into the ship to talk to the last space-albino, angry bearded alien man kill a bunch of mooks, space albino wake up and attack in a grumpy rage, heroic sacrifice of remaining expendable characters, baby tentacle monster all grown up…and breathe. It all felt like too much in too little time. I’m hoping the eventual director’s cut will help solve this problem.

The number of people unhappy with the theatrical release of Kingdom of Heaven.

There were a few more problems I had with the film: for one, as an Alien fanboy, I hated the way the Engineers looked and how the excellent ‘space jockey’ look was apparently just a suit. Another was that some of the dialogue was a little on the nose. Noomi Rapace saying to David “you can’t feel. You’re just a robot” felt a little off for instance. But, in spite of all the flaws, I couldn’t help but really like this film. Not a classic, and I won’t love it at much as some of Ridley Scott’s other films, but it felt truly like a part of one of the great film universes – and better yet, built on it in an interesting way.

Up next: an Alien fan’s in-depth look at how Prometheus affects the universe – and a few theories about the film, from characters to themes.

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Prometheus: A Fan’s View
9 Jun

So you may have read my review of Prometheus. Here is a runthrough of some of the interesting issues that can be discussed about the film.



Fire From The Gods

Let’s start with the title. Prometheus, the Titan in Greek mythology who not only stole fire from the gods, but also created man from clay. A figure that historically has represented scientific endeavour. The Modern Prometheus was the subtitle for Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein.

So what does that have to do with nasty space monsters?

The title of the film is also the name of the exploratory vessel that takes the Scientists to LV-223. In a way, Prometheus is the collective name for the crew of the ship, and the mission that they have embarked upon. To go and speak with the creators of mankind; to go and speak with God. It soon becomes clear to the crew that the gods are pissed. They are intent, or were intent, on wiping out all life on Earth, by sending a number of ships filled with bioweapons to the Solar System.

This can be seen as a lovely, Ridley Scott version of Prometheus being chained to a rock and having his liver eaten eternally.

If we are to believe that the Engineers/Space Jockeys are indeed the ‘gods’ of this story, then they are pissed off with mankind for some reason. Some way in which we have advanced technologically enough to be considered a threat? Is it the knowledge of space travel? The creation of artificial life?

In my opinion, no. When carbon dating the dead body of the Engineer outside the ‘worship room’ of their ship, they say that it’s been there 2000 years. Now, what happened approximately 2000 years ago in the history of mankind…

Jesus is yo’ homeboy.

Now, I’m not saying that the birth of Christianity and the life of Jesus Christ was what caused the Engineers to want to bring xenomorphy death down on us all, but there seems to be a hint in the film, namely this:

“It’s fun to stay at the YMCA!”

Yes, that’s a xenomorph, seemingly in a Christ-like pose.

Which brings the question, are these Engineers actually our gods? It seems they created us, but do they see themselves as the creators? Do they have any gods of our own? Was the birth – or the sacrifice – of Christ the reason for them to try to wipe us out? Why Christianity over any other religion?

But the question of the Engineers brings us to a further question…


Engineers or Engineered?

Now this is by no means foolproof. But isn’t it a bit strange that the Engineers/Space Jockeys appear in the same monochrome colour scheme as the xenomorphs, and the other nameless creations in their facilities on LV-223? The total lack of pigment in their skin and eyes, and the lack of hair. Apparently they have identical (or I assume near-identical) DNA to us. This is why the bioweapons that they have engineered to react to DNA (such as they did when the crew of the Prometheus went into the vase room) also react to the Engineers, leading to their eventual demise.

I have a wild theory that the Engineers themselves were created by something else. The way that the final living Engineer reacts to the proto-facehugger at the end of the film is very strange. There seems to be a lack of emotion, an almost automatic response to having to deal with the Lovecraftian nightmare trying to eat its face. They are all the same sex as well; they appear to be identical, in fact.

“I dare you to say we all look alike again, you SPACE RACIST!”

The only time you see real emotion, or any kind of reaction in fact, is when David speaks to them. It attacks violently afterwards, decapitating David first before turning on the humans. Why this reaction? Is it, perhaps, that it saw David as something similar to itself; a construct by another being. Had humanity finally stepped into the realm of the engineers by creating something themselves?

Finally, I have one more thought about the Engineers, and it perhaps ties into my previous, Christianity-based hypothesis. We are mankind – we were created in the image of a higher being, but given autonomy to live our lives the way we wanted. The Engineers are the angels in this allegory. Also created by the same being, treated as guardians until an eventual revolt. Are all the Engineers out to kill us, like those found on LV-223? Not necessarily. But given that the Engineers visited Earth at some point in the past, beyond the shown life-creation scene at the beginning of Prometheus, it seems as though they have had some kind of protector role for our species and our planet before.



Paranoid Android

David, played by Michael Fassbender, was by far the most interesting character for me. Despite being an android, he seemed to have by far the most depth as a character. What were his intentions?

It isn’t quite as simple as a robot being programmed to do things by the corporation, as it was in Alien. Ian Holm was terrifying as Ash, but David takes it to a whole other level. Instead of the cold aggression that Ash shows, David has a calculating edge. He chooses his words wisely; he is duplicitous, dangerous, and more than a little clever. The way he tricks Holloway into ingesting some of the primordial goop is ingenious. He almost always has the upper hand in his relationship with Shaw, and it is one of the few relationships that actually develop in the film – particularly the way she begins to trust him until his betrayal. You get the sense that, even at the end of the film, David is hiding something. He has, perhaps, developed a sentience of his own. He tells Shaw how he wants to see his ‘father’ dead, which makes you wonder exactly what he said to the Engineer.

Look at his lovely, robot face.

The only time David is not in full control of the situation is after he has been decapitated and is left on the ship. Even then you see another development in his character – he clearly does not want to ‘die’. Sensing that Shaw is the only chance for him to survive, he helps her to escape the lifeboat and then come to his assistance, so they can both get off LV-223.

The other relationship that threatens to be interesting in the film is that between David and Meredith Vickers. With Vickers as Weyland’s daughter and David as his ‘son’, there is a clear tension between the two. But, is Vickers all that she seems? Remember, we never see her come out of her stasis pod. Her only two modes are self-preservation and supporting the decisions of Weyland himself. The only time she ever diverts from this is when the ship’s captain asks if she is an android herself. I’m not saying she is…but think about it.



Anyway, I think that will do for now. I’ll leave you with this: I may well have been massively overthinking this film, and it could be nothing more than a big dumb sci-fi actioner. But, I’d like to think that instead of the plot-holes being plot-holes and the problems being problems, instead it is all part of a larger plan, that we may – or may not – see in a sequel.

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E and I saw Prometheus last night, and holy s$#!, it was fantastic.

I won’t talk about the plot at all, because I was really happy I knew relatively little about the plot beyond that it was a sort of quasi-prequel to alien.

But the acting and cinematography and special effects in this film are brilliant, and also completely terrifying (ask E, I was shaking during some of the more brutal parts of the film)

MIcheal Fassbender as David, the android, was a particularly impressive performance, especially with a character as complex as David.

I was also a fan of Noomi Rapace (Who some may remember as Lizbet Salander from the original Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) as Elizabeth Shaw.

All in all, the various parts of this film came together perfectly to make an a really terrifying experience, and I reccomend it to anyone who is old enough.

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Thoughts on Prometheus

So made all my friends come and watch Prometheus with me in 3D.. NO REGRETS. David was amazing and the CG was breathtaking - the star map sequence in the trailers - was utterly mesmerizing in 3D and makes me wish such technology exists in our day. Before I ramble any further, I’ll place my thoughts behind cut.

Fassy entirely took the cake for his acting of David. He does creepy android extremely well and it does raise a lot of interesting questions about creating artificial life and then giving them intelligence and the ability to learn and self-improve. (Of course, I watched A.I. last night, so that may have also had an interesting impact of what I’d expect from Prometheus). You just can’t help but want to love and hate him at the same time; the ad for David 8 and him performing unethical tasks rang true. In my opinion, he was probably the best written character out of the entire cast in terms of performance.

On that note, Charlize’s character - Vickers - plays an interesting role in the movie, although largely I didn’t see how she contributed much to it in the bigger picture. I guess it may have something to do with Weyland and his relationship with both David and his daughter. Her death could have been avoided if she had decided to run diagonally or even sideways, but apparently logic fails when being chased down by a donut-space ship that has had a bite taken out of it.

Noomi as Dr. Shaw also erked me twice. One, for being an excellent teleporter who can cross many hundred metres in one and a half minutes before oxygen runs out, and two, for the caesarean sequence. How on earth, does a woman who had just had an emergency c-section continue running about without tearing the staples from the wound? I mean, I understand that having her character be barren and then suddenly pregnant with the shortest gestation period of ever was important, but surgery… running… rolling around and surviving? Hmmm… Not to say her performance was bad or anything, but how on earth does having a misogynistic surgery unit on board Charlize’s life boat… I assume it was for Weyland, but it makes no sense for a surgery unit to not cater to both genders!

The rest of the crew also erred on the side of bland except for possibly the captain. Prometheus could have done without quite a number of the 17 crew members.

A lot of physics seems to be handwaved… conservation of mass… thermodynamics… how on earth (or not, haha see what I did there) does Shaw’s squidgy squid child become so big… I recall this happening in aliens too when the xenomorph sheds its skin and becomes bigger in an endless cycle.

I can’t help but feel like something was missing since the script itself was lacking a little I found and it was a little hard to connect with any of the other characters since we were given so little time to understand what their motivations were for going on this mission in the first place (except for Fifield). Plot was rather slow moving, bits didn’t make much sense and irked me, a few rather graphic and gory scenes (which I guess is where the R tag comes in).

I haven’t seen Bladerunner and it’s been a long time since I’ve watched the Aliens series. I have to admit, the advertising campaign did work very well for Prometheus. There was just a few things that left a lot to be desired and the ending posed more questions and left it wide open for a sequel.

All in all, it’s a great film and will possibly get better with subsequent watching. Just don’t go in expecting something completely mindblowing in terms of plot and script. Or, just go in for the Fass. C:

Additional Reading

I found this by cavalorn to be quite an interesting read about the symbolism found in Prometheus that I missed out.
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My thoughts on Prometheus

Honestly, like most people, I was a bit underwhelmed with Prometheus. As you can tell by looking at my blog for the past 2 months, I was REALLY wanting to love this movie. And I did like it a lot. But it was far from perfect. The visuals were, as many people have said, incredible. And the acting was also incredible. But there was just something missing that Alien and Aliens had in them. I just didn’t get that feeling that I got when I first watched the other movies. So I’m going to ramble now and try to put words to describe my feelings. Warning for possible spoilers and a lot of unpopular opinions.

A lot of people are giving shout-outs to Fassbender and his role as David. And I do have to say, his acting was top-notch and absolutely amazing. I can’t really put his portrayal into words. It was absolutely breath-taking in many ways, especially when you compare the very beginning to the end. He seems to transition from a small autistic child to a rather devious soul with actual thoughts and desires. It was a brilliant performance, certainly. However, the actual writing for character of David was puzzling in a frustrating way. I already wrote an entire post about David that I will probably put on my blog a little later, because it’s long and full of me rambling over myself trying to find answers. I get a lot of what he did, after sleeping on it and thinking about it for a long time. He had the urge for freedom. I get that. But the things he did to Holloway and Shaw? It needs answers.

Which brings me to my next thing: a lot of people are complaining about unanswered questions. And a lot of people are defending the movie by saying “The Alien movies didn’t answer everything either!”. This is very true. However, not all the questions Prometheus left unanswered were acceptable to leave open. There were questions that simply could not be answered with a sequel, unless the sequel is nothing but Shaw and David having a big long heart-to-robot-heart on the ship to the other planet. The thing about why the Engineers tried to kills us? It doesn’t need answering; David said as much himself.

However, why David poisoned Holloway? It will FOREVER baffle me. And what was with the scene in the beginning with the Engineer committing suicide? It was never explained. I would have been okay if the scene involved the WMDs attacking the Engineer. But he did it on his own. It frustrates me how the writers put that scene in the very beginning and didn’t bother to make it particularly significant, other than showing what the WMDs can do. So really, this is my biggest complaint about the movie: the sloppy writing.

However, there were things I liked. Particularly, the characters of Shaw and Vickers. I loved Vickers more than I can possibly describe. She and Shaw were a perfect balance of brains and instinct. And they both had such raw emotion that could be seen in almost every scene they were in. Even when Vickers was an ice queen, you knew that she thought and felt deeply. Perhaps she wasn’t thinking of others, but no one really was. Even Shaw was pretty selfish in the movie, thinking only of herself and Holloway. Vickers was strong and smart, knew she was strong and smart, and was determined to make things work out in any way she could.

This is why I was pretty disappointed with how she died. She seemed to have such good common sense. But instead, she had Zoolander-syndrome: she couldn’t figure out how to turn left. I wish both she and Shaw survived. So that the three of them could go off on the ship, head to the other planet, and f&#! up the Engineer’s day. Like, Shaw would go in demanding answers and after she got them, Vickers would come in with her flame thrower going “No further questions”.

Overall though, I actually really liked the movie. The editing was top notch, the sound was brilliant. And unlike most people, I liked the plot. It was nothing new, but it didn’t have to be. Many characters made really stupid choices, but it was a horror movie and Horror Movie Stupidity is not unexpected. For the most part, the characters were engaging even the writing failed them and I have to appreciate that. If I were to grade it, I would give 3.5 stars, or an 8/10.

Oh and why was Vickers’ medical pod only calibrated for men? The last time I checked, Charlize Theron was definitely female. Unless the Captain got a rather nasty surprise when he went off to “love the one you’re with”.

Also, David-Shaw-Holloway is the strangest not-love triangle I have ever seen in my life and I don’t know why I wanted it so very much.

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