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Post by Admin on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:34 pm

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This is a spoiler filled run down on my “f#%@#&! Horrible” rating I supplied earlier.

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So Ridley Scott is either trying to relaunch the Alien franchise, or he just got nostalgic for one of his more cherished properties and wanted to do a little finger painting. It’s hard to say.

The movie begins with an Engineer (the race known as the Space Jockey from the original Alien film) on Earth, long before complex life has come to be. It’s a seemingly ritualistic/spiritual little process where he slips out of a long cloak and hood, and is clad only in a loin cloth. He downs some black fluid as, we can only assume, the rest of his crew leaves in their ship. The black fluid breaks down the Engineer on a dna based level and he falls into a raging water fall where he goes to pieces, at a DNA level, before we see the DNA recombine, create cells, split, and thus bring about life on Earth.

Jump to 2089 where, as you’ve seen in the trailers, some scientists find pictographs of early man worshiping some alien being who points to the heavens. Based on these details the group of scientists and a couple top brass Wayland executives along with David, the android, head out to LV-233 (not to be mistaken with LV-426 from the Alien franchise) to investigate.

Upon landing we quickly find out the Engineer’s DNA matches our own, but David, and a random dust storm, set in motion a series of events that, in my opinion, never amount to an actual cohesive story.

The Engineer outpost found on LV-233 appears to be a depot, possibly a research facility. The motives behind the Engineers, are never clear. We see little holographic logs that show that the Engineers were obviously trying to evacuate LV-233. They were dying left and right from what appeared to be some out break of the “black fluid” used to at the very beginning of the film. The humans find corpse after corpse of these guys then ultimately the room filled with the cylindrical canisters containing the black fluid.

Is the black fluid a weapon, or is it some kind of planet seeding bio tech? What ever it is, it makes s$#! evolve super quick. Two of the humans scientists are savagedly killed after the storm traps them in the room with the containers, and worms that had been dormant in the soil, now flooded with the black goo, have evolved into what appears to be a form of the face hugger we see from the Alien films.

Mean while David, having smuggled some of the black goo on board, infects one of the scientists with the black goo, who then in turns has sex with his lady scientist and she becomes pregnant with a foreign “object”.

And things are still not made clear or even justified. David seems to do what he does out of malice, but also to possibly get a live specimen via the pregnancy? It’s hard to say because ultimately David’s primary story line is about the fact that he’s smuggled the dying head of the Wayland Corporation on the trip in order for said dying man to meet “his makers” and possible be saved by them. The two objectives seem to be counter intuitive to one another.

Still when the dying Wayland is ferryed out to meet the one surviving Engineer, well it seems the Engineer isn’t too impressed. He kills pracitcally everyone and launches to go to earth. Why? Not sure, its presented that the payload of his ship is the black goo, and the black goo only kills and morphs things. So he’s going to destroy earth presumably. But it’s odd because the last time this guy was awake he and his crew we’re trying to evacuate the facility, albeit the evacuation seemed to be to earth. So he wakes up and like a soldier fulfilling he last order he attempts to make his way to earth, but the brave crew of the Prometheus crashes their ship into the Engineer’s marooning him, the only other human, and a pretty trashed David.

I don’t need to tell you the end, cause to be honest its the only seemingly interesting bit in the movie, but honestly should have been the focus of this film, and I’m not talking about the Alien tie ins.

Too many questions are simply not answered as to what the purpose of this film was. If the Engineers seeded earth, why were they heading back to destroy it? Even more so why were they heading back to earth to destroy it when based on the details supplied via the holo logs it seems like they’re just trying to evacuate the facility because they themselves were dying. Why wake up from an extended cryo sleep and the first thing he thinks to do is, “Oh got to head out to destroy earth” when he’s got all these cute little humans standing around wanting to ask him questions. And why tell earlier humans, which means they revisited earth numerous times, “hey this is where one of our supply depots/research facilities is, come visit when you figure out how to.” It all just seems to be pinned together with twine in an effort to show you that little bit at the end with the Alien, and to be honest that was sort of boring in and of itself.

Movie looks great, every does great with their parts, but what was it this story was suppose to accomplish? I’m unsure to be honest and yeah, I though it was pretty f#%@#&! horrible.
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Post by Admin on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:36 pm

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Prometheus Review

Director: Ridley Scott

Starring: Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Charlize Theron.

Rating: 5/5

On the Surface: this was one of those films I’d been waiting for since it had been announced, I watched Alien when I was about 12 and though I can’t say I liked it it is undoubtedly one of the most influential films of our time. Prometheus is the long awaited prequel to the Alien movies; it provides us with a bit of background to the origins of the alien race the other movies center on but aside from that this movie works perfectly well as a stand alone.

The movie is visually spectacular, the cast works well together and the different personalities and characters give the movie an interesting dynamic (especially Michael Fassbender’s performance as David, he was very, very good) and along with the movies extremely disturbing opening sequence and nail-biting finale I’d say this is a must see for all.
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#162. Prometheus (2012), dir. by Ridley Scott

I’ve always felt like Ridley Scott was a hit-or-miss type of director. It’s even more troubling when he actually hits the right marks, but only with a passive and unfocussed attitude. Prometheus offers a mixed collection of both negative and positive to examine. It’s main issue stems from a shoddy script that squanders the premise’s potential into incoherent avenues that leave many questions unanswered and hardly ever touches upon promised philosophical notions, resulting in an overwhelming lack of pay off. New and interesting idea’s concerning creation and technology and how they intertwine are introduced, only to touch upon their surface and are hardly ever elaborated on. Ridley Scott’s vision is truly arresting, the set pieces are enigmatic and stunning and the film is something to really behold and marvel at with it’s sense of scope and grandeur, but it’s abundantly clear that it serves as another detrimental reminder of how hollow and vapid the film’s existence is. The performances in the film are lackluster with the occasional stand out, namely Fassbender’s David, consistently vigilant, stoic and calculated, compared to Charlize Theron’s character who feels cold and wooden, devolving into the typical corporate bad guy. I found it difficult to sympathize and connect with Rapace’s Shaw along with most of the cast.

That isn’t to say that Prometheus has nothing good to offer. When the film works it works, the first half really wraps you in because it’s still shrouded in mystery. It’s when Scott starts to unearth the true nature of the crew’s journey that the film starts to fall apart at the seams. Scott does however make the film a truly visceral experience. The film’s action and horror elements fire on all cylinders and harken back to what made the original Alien so great. The way the film ties the original Alien series and interweaves it within it’s own mythos feels inspired, the culmination of it’s connections with the grander scope of humankind and the universe feels organic. It doesn’t blatantly riff on being a “quasi-prequel’ to Dan O’Bannon’s original Alien, only giving it the slightest of nods. The special effects and creature design deserves some acknowledgment as well, filling in the gaps of a missing sense of threat and danger to the strange world we’re introduced to.

Although my personal stance on the film hardly matters, I still consider Prometheus a film that I enjoyed but only begrudgingly. It’s clunky script riddled with inconsistencies meanders off into frustrating directions, riding on the coattails of it’s technical and visual brilliance. It’s handful of derailments into convention keep it from being something fantastic, I’d even say that it will go on to becoming radically misunderstood. In a single word I’d describe it as being underwhelming. Prometheus is a film that is crushed under the weight of it’s own ambition, earnestly trying to be original and interesting and feel important when it ultimately falls flat. Let’s hope there’s a director’s cut somewhere in the works.

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17 Burning ‘Prometheus’ Questions Answered by Jordan Hoffman *Spoiler Alert*

Noomi Rapace’s Elizabeth Shaw wants answers. There’s a good chance that after you see “Prometheus,” you will, too.

Astoundingly gorgeous yet fundamentally frustrating, “Prometheus” seems poised to be the most analyzed and debated big budget Hollywood release this year.

Its intentional ambiguity is a nice nod to its ancestor (1979’s “Alien” has more than its share of elliptical moments) but this new one seems doubly excited to leave its viewers in the dark, especially considering how today’s megaplex fare seems to spoon feed us.

(Editor’s Note: If you haven’t yet seen “Prometheus,” read no further. Spoilers abound!)

Luckily, I’ve seen “Prometheus” and, in case you didn’t already realize it, I’m a frickin’ genius. As such, I have answers to the most common questions in the film – even if director Ridley Scott and screenwriter Damon Lindelof continue to plead the fifth.

Obviously, these are wall-to-wall spoilers, so proceed with caution.

1. What the hell was that pre-title sequence all about?

That was one of the Engineers on Earth, jump-starting the creation of man. (In case you didn’t know, the Greek mythological figure Prometheus didn’t just steal fire and get a harsh punishment from Zeus, he also CREATED mankind, for which, oddly, he doesn’t get as much credit.)

2. Wait, so did the giant blue man make those cave etchings with the stars? The ones future scientists will be able to chart to LV-223?

There is absolutely no evidence to support this in the text, but I believe the Engineers imprinted these images on early man – kinda like how the people in “Close Encounters of the Third Kind” all felt compelled to design images of Devil’s Tower.

3. How can an android, even one as technologically advanced as David, read dreams?
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You gotta just accept that one. Maybe dreams give off electrical discharges that, in future years, will be reconstructable? But this is a question like “if ‘Prometheus’ is set before ‘Alien,’ why does it look more modern than ‘Alien’?” It’s not a real question.

4. Why did those awesome roving spheres that make the 3-D map, that are ostensibly looking for life forms, not pickup on those earthworms?

That’s annoying, ain’t it? I can only guess that the spheres don’t recognize life forms that small, or that the indigenous life on LV-223 consists of properties Human tech isn’t hip to. (Like silicon-based life as opposed to carbon-based, c.f. Star Trek, “The Devil in the Dark,” 1967.)

However, the spheres were able to pick up on the giant snake that the worms turned into once the evil black goo mixed with them. That means the spheres would recognize the goo-derived aspects of the snake. This makes sense, because the goo came from the Engineers’ world and the Engineers, as we later discover, have the same DNA as us.

Still, you’d think the black goo alone would have biological elements of a recognizable nature that the spheres could detect, but I’m not an expert in black goo. Maybe it only becomes “alive” when it mixes with other living matter.

5. Where did the snake come from?

I just answered that. David started messing with the canisters of black goo and it mixed with the earthworms to become giant snake monsters not dissimilar to the Dionaga from “Episode IV.”

6. Why did David grab the canister of goo?

I believe that Peter Weyland told David on the down low that, listen, we’re not just here to talk to our Gods and try and stave off death. We’ve also got an obligation to our investors to grab anything that can be of scientific or technological interest.

I don’t think, however, Weyland knew specifically about the goo in advance, or knew what it could do.

7. Why did David poison Charlie with the goo?

One of the principal themes of “Prometheus” is creation. Most (but not all) humans feel compelled to procreate. Peter Weyland designed David to have as many human characteristics as possible. He wants to be a real boy, like Pinocchio or Lt. Commander Data. However, he is unable to create life. He even discusses his wonder at creating life with Charlie. He knows that if he poisons Charlie and if Charlie is intimate with Elizabeth Shaw, he will impregnate her with a lifeform based partly on his design. This will also be seen as a “take that, Dad!” to his father, whom he feels the need, in some ways, to impress or “one-up.”

8. Okay, so HOW did David know that he could do all this with a drop of goo in Charlie’s drink?

No frickin’ clue. It’s a big problem with “Prometheus.” The only answer I can give is that David, like Data, is smart. He figured it out. I have a hunch that this is something being “saved for the sequel,” which, again, is a cop-out. You shouldn’t have questions like this saved for a sequel.

9. How did Idris Elba know that LV-223 was a testing ground for Engineer WMD?

Again, no idea. I was right there with him and I didn’t put that together. Hell, I actually saw MORE of the story, through the power of cross-cutting, and I didn’t put that together. My hunch is that Elba’s character knew this through the power of the almighty “Studio Note.” Somebody read Lindelof’s script and said, “you need someone to come in and explain this point.”

10. How did David know how to find the Engineer’s ships?

He’s got sensors.

11. How did David know how to manipulate the ship?

He’s Data! He’s really smart. How many times do I have to tell you?

12. Why cast Guy Pearce and put him in awful makeup? There are no 90 year-old actors out there? Is Guy Pearce such a box office draw?

No, he isn’t, but having him involved meant they could make that cool viral video of him as a young businessman. That’s the only excuse I can think of for that bad makeup.

13. Why did the Engineer go batty and start killing people? Was it something David said?

I think David was on the level and said whatever it was that Peter wanted to say to him. The Engineer, however, has been asleep for a thousand years. He’s grumpy. But he knew that he had to kill humans. What does he see? Humans! So he starts killing.

14. This is LV-223 and “Alien” takes place on LV-426. What’s the deal?

Well, there are some missing pieces between the end of “Prometheus” and the beginning of “Alien.”

LV-223 is left with dead engineers, a derelict ship and a room full of black goo canisters. LV-426 has dead engineers (or at least one), a derelict ship (or at least one) and a room not full of canisters but of Xenomorph eggs. It’s a different place. (Or an altered place that is coincidentally timed with a change in stellar cartography – so not bloody likely.)

This means that somehow some sort of similar event is happening on LV-426. Maybe it was a second WND testing site?

Also, as is evident solely in “Alien,” someone needed to have communicated back to Weyland-Yutani the potential of the Xenomorph on LV-426 to make it of interest to them. That means either the surviving characters of “Prometheus” do it or other characters we haven’t met yet do it. This is not a direct prequel.

15. Wait, so, about the Xenomorphs. The aliens from “Alien” that we know and love. We don’t see them until the very end of the movie, when we see (and take a deep breath here) the biological by-product of a half-Engineer and a black goo inseminated human fetus. But if they all have the same DNA, why does this create a Xenomorph when the other critters in “Prometheus” are clearly not Xenomorphs?

I could be a jerk and say things like “it needs to be second-generation” or it was the fact that Shaw’s creature was ripped out before its full term, but the real answer is this: the fans.

If there wasn’t a Xenomorph in the movie, everyone would go nuts. So why not throw it in there in the very last frame? It’ll make people happy, they’ll leave the theater with a smile, tell their friends to go see it, cause the film to make money, inspire a sequel and, well, by then someone will have thought up a good answer.

16. Why do the Engineers create us just to kill us?

That’s not for this movie to answer. That’s between you and your God.

17. Okay, why does Idris Elba listen to Stephen Stills so far into the future?
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PROMETHEUS: Why We’re Not Best Pleased - Pt.I

Nigh on four years ago, I was excited. I was excited because there was a new Indiana Jones film, and Steven Spielberg had promised that it was being done the old school way in every department. The return of the fun, stunt filled, pulpy romp that is Indiana Jones. Off we went to the cinema, hearts full of joy and gaily whistling the theme tune, full of anticipation with not a care in the world.

The first thing that appeared on the screen was a CGI gopher, and it was a downward spiral from there - A spiral ending in betrayal and depression.

This year, Ridley Scott, acclaimed director of genre classic Alien and science fiction masterpiece Blade Runner, returned to what many consider his rightful place and released his first sci-fi offering in 30 years.


Today, I speak with screenwriter and shambles Stuart Richardson about Ridley Scott’s Prometheus and the state of science fiction in cinema.

*SPOILER ALERT*
IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN PROMETHEUS, THIS DISCUSSION WILL RUIN IT FOR YOU. IF YOU HAVE SEEN PROMETHEUS, YOU’LL KNOW THAT RIDLEY SCOTT & CO HAVE ALREADY RUINED IT FOR YOU.
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[Chris] So, Stu, what did you think of Prometheus?

[Stu] HA! Yeah it was really good. Fantastic script – really tight. I liked that there were people in it and they sometimes talked to each other. Not just one monster but many monsters…

[Chris] Each more richly designed than the last?

[Stu] Indeed – All very relatable to things we all know…

[Chris] and love.

[Stu] Yeah. Squids…

[Chris] Men…

[Stu] And cobras. Cobras are scary so we’ll bung some of them in but give it a vagina for a mouth.

[Chris] Goo was a central theme.

[Stu] And Frankenstein was in it.

[Chris] They pretty much covered all there bases and there was something in there for everybody so y’know… Five stars.

[Stu] Yeah, top notch.

[Chris] Shall we do this properly now?

[Stu] Yes.

[Chris] OK. I foresee you getting quite angry so, in the case of an incident, the safe-word is “Jonesy”.

[Stu] Agreed

[Chris] Now, I’ve been desperately trying to work out what they were going for with some major aspects of the film and I just can’t. It starts at the very beginning. The alien dude drinks the weird goo and we see him break down and fall into the water, then we get that shot of the DNA breaking down inside him…

[Stu] The “LOOK, LOOK, YOU SHOULD’VE SEEN THIS IN 3D” shot.

[Chris] Yeah, that one. Now I interpreted that as being the origin of all life on earth coming from the broken down DNA of this one guy.

[Stu] I think that’s how most people interpreted it, yeah.

[Chris] But that undermines everything that comes afterwards. If human DNA and ‘Engineer’ DNA are identical, which doesn’t make any sense but we find out later is supposedly the case, then what about every other creature on the planet? The very fundamental premise of the film is already flawed. It’s already that kind of sci-fi that requires you to drop everything you know about science.

[Stu] Yeah, but it was a good way of telling you, early on, what to expect from the rest of the film. There was that super-zoom through him to a molecular level to watch his DNA break down in spectacular 3D [We saw the film in 2D, like sensible people] then the next thing we see is cells dividing. You’re left to fill in the nonsensical gaps with whatever you want. There’s a lot of filling in the gaps to come. It really sets the tone for the kind of film Prometheus turned out to be.

[Chris] But by that point in the film I wasn’t angry. I like the opening. It was all beautifully shot and felt like the right kind of thing. Then it cut to a dream sequence with David, the android, watching Shaw’s dream through an interface on the cryo-pod. I mean… why does that exist? It’s completely at odds with the tone of the universe Scott has previously created.

[Stu] It’s just such a stupid plot device. We need to get some exposition in here but don’t know how… I know, we’ll have a robot watching people’s dreams.

[Chris] It was a very Dr. Who approach to exposition.

[Stu] It was, and it’s the kind of stuff that should be written out in a first draft.

[Chris] Exactly. You should wake up the next day, read it and just think “NO NO NO”, and fix it.

[Stu] It’s baffling, even just this one idea alone, that Ridley Scott saw the script and said “That’s fine”. I mean, this is the man who created Blade Runner.

[Chris] Yeah. I was thinking about it, and Ridley Scott is the only person with two films in my top five. He created the best sci-fi movie ever made (Blade Runner) and the best horror movie ever made (Alien), and that was also a sci-fi movie…

[Stu] Such tight, complete films…

[Chris] I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have high expectations…

[Stu] …and suddenly beds can see into dreams.

[Chris] I’m never sleeping in a bed again.

[Stu] Wise. Another thing - They were the best scientists I’ve seen in any film ever. They had a very slapdash approach to contacting new life forms.

[Chris] That’s absolutely true. I mean, these people are, essentially, making first contact with an alien civilisation, but this is essentially an archaeological expedition. Archaeologists don’t just run in shouting, find a dead thing, take its head and do a mad, uninformed autopsy, reanimating the head like Herbert f#%@#&! West and then ramping up the juice resulting in a gooey explosion. It’s not their deal. They were Aperture Science scientists – Throwing science at the wall to see what sticks. Useless.

[Stu] The worst thing, I found, was that as this was clearly written, initially at least, as a prequel to Alien, you could see all the bits that they’d just tweaked to try and turn it away from that.

[Chris] Yeah. I’d kind of begun to worry because, when it was first announced, it was definitely part of the Alien franchise, but as the release got closer they backpedalled on that notion a lot to the point where people are saying “You’ve got to remember that it’s not a prequel to Alien”. It just made me think that they know what they’ve done. They know they’ve cocked up and now they’re doing everything they can to disassociate it from their beloved franchise.

[Stu] I think that is the case, yeah. There was a journalist who followed the production of Blade Runner – I’m reading the book at the moment and it’s really interesting – and I hope that somebody has followed the production of Prometheus because it would be incredibly interesting to know why all these creative decisions were made because they just don’t seem coherent at all. I mean, if you think back to the space snake that was clearly a facehugger in the first draft, and the vases that were clearly eggs in the first draft, you see all these little things that have been tweaked and made all the worse for it.

[Chris] But what I don’t understand is why they went to so much effort to do those things and then still chucked a Xenomorph, albeit it a bastardised version, in at the end.

[Stu] Exactly. When you look at the inconsistency of purpose you realise that you’ve got something that strives to be the best of both worlds and not quite as good as either. It’s a horrible concoction that doesn’t work well as a stand alone film or as a franchise entry.

[Chris] Yeah. People have said to me “It’s better if you look at it in isolation, on its own merit”. No. I’ve assessed it as a film in its own right. It’s even worse if taken as part of the franchise. I guess it takes a harder hit for being a prequel. I mean, Alien Resurrection was rubbish, but it doesn’t undo the previous three instalments. Prometheus undermines everything I see in Alien, now.

[Stu] Every time you see the Space Jockey now, you’re going to be thinking of that giant, pale, speechless man.

[Chris] Yeah.

[Stu] It’s such a crappy bit of design as well. You’ve got the beautiful Space Jockey in Alien. To think that under that is just a big, muscley albino is just depressing.

[Chris] Look at you, all sad.

[Stu] I am sad. It was a f#%@#&! dreadful film.

[Chris] It’s odd that compared to the whole Indiana Jones debacle, which I think was probably the last film I saw with you, I don’t feel as betrayed. Maybe it’s because I had time to gauge other people’s reactions this time and lower my expectations before going, but after Indy 4 I felt genuinely betrayed. With this I just feel sad.

[Stu] Yeah.

[Chris] I’ve been a big Ridley Scott fan for a long time, and I’ve discussed Prometheus with a few people, and said that I thought it was rubbish, and people have asked me if I think he’s failed to keep up. I think the opposite is true. I think he has caught up, but keeping up with what is considered “modern sci-fi” is a terrible idea. It was a film for the Transformers generation.

[Stu] I was thinking along similar lines and trying to think of the last film he made that I really enjoyed, and concluded that it was Gladiator, and that was twelve years ago. It got me wondering what’s happened to Ridley Scott. I mean, I can understand that when people get older their wants and desires change, and he has no need to prove himself anymore but…

[Chris] I don’t even know that that’s it. I think what has happened, and I think it would happen to pretty much everybody in his position, is that all restraints have been removed. Restrictions make the creative process more acutely focussed and active. When you get to the point Ridley Scott has reached, where nobody is saying no to you any more, then the work suffers immediately. There came a point, probably around the time that Lord of The Rings started coming out and made three-hour films the norm, that people decided that they didn’t really need to edit scripts any more. That to be “epic” was enough. Prometheus felt like a flabby four hour film that had been hastily cut to time, but they’d still tried to keep everything in, resulting in empty nonsense.

[Stu] I was reading the other day that Ridley Scott had wanted the alien to kill Ripley in the original film, and then have the whole “This is Ripley, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off” bit in her voice, posthumously. It just put me in mind of that George Lucas thing – That he’d originally wanted Han Solo to be a giant cat du-

[Chris] Hold the phone. This is f@&#$%!’ news to me.

[Stu] I’m sure it was Han Solo. Certainly, one of the characters in Star Wars was meant to be some laughably stupid creation but it couldn’t be done because the resources weren’t there and it really reinforces your point, I think. There’s a lot to be said for not giving anyone on a crew free-reign to do whatever they want.

[Chris] Yeah. It’s no good to go too far the other way either but, in the current scheme of things, that doesn’t seem to be a danger. Some regression to the mean would be nice.

[Stu] It’s a weird time for Hollywood in general in the fact that most of the people who made these classic extravaganza type films are getting old and signing off, and they’re not really being replaced. It’s a transitional time. George Lucas is getting out of the game now, which is a f#%@#&! lifesaver…

[Chris] …for cinema in general.

[Stu] Yeah. Going to pursue more personal projects which, hopefully, means pursuing no projects.

[Chris] Yeah. Hopefully he means what I mean when I say I’m going to pursue other projects, which is “I’m quitting. You won’t see me again for a while.”

[Stu] Anyway, it’s stunning that this is a Ridley Scott film… Although I guess he hasn’t made great films in a while…

[Chris] Well, I think the last one I saw was Kingdom of Heaven and I didn’t think that was as bad as everybody thought it was at the time. It was a mediocre film with some nice ideas that it didn’t quite realise well enough.

[Stu] I agree, and it looked beautiful because Ridley Scott knows how to make things looks beautiful.

[Chris] Maybe he should go back to that side of things.

[Stu] What? Go back into advertising?

[Chris] Yeah. I meant to say that that’s one thing I can’t really fault with Prometheus. It looked absolutely superb. I mean, excluding the lazy monster design, it really was a spectacle. It was also so refreshing to see some real, physical set building. There was very little green-screen for a modern science fiction film. It was all very tactile. Even with the exterior planetscapes…

[Stu] They went to Iceland to shoot.

[Chris] Exactly.

[Stu] But, for me, that served to highlight another issue; Another instance of the “best of both worlds” issue. They didn’t seem to know whether they wanted the claustrophobia of Alien or the grander scope of something like Avatar and, again, it went for something in the middle, creating these beautiful, broad, sweeping vistas then setting the entire film in a cave or on a ship.

[Chris] They didn’t really know what they wanted it to be.

[Stu] They really didn’t. They marketed it as a horror film…

[Chris] I don’t know that they did, but go on…

[Stu] Action horror, then. They tried to have these intense moments but couldn’t pull them off because I didn’t give a s$#! about any character in it.

[Chris] Absolutely. The one character I nearly gave a s$#! about was David. For the first half of the movie he had moments of intrigue when he seemed to be realising that being an emotionless android made him superior rather than inferior to humans, and that made his agenda interesting, but that was completely undermined by the fact that he transpired to be under direct control of a cartoon villain. That brings me to another point. Why the hell was Guy Pearce in it?

[Stu] I don’t know.

[Chris] Why in f&#!’s name would you cast a young man for a viral marketing video and then make him look old for your MULTI MILLION DOLLAR BLOCKBUSTER. Surely you work the other way around? Get an old guy to play the incredibly old guy and put Guy Pearce in the viral video. Why have you got Guy Pearce, looking like a potato, in the film itself?

[Stu] And after his initial scenes he was moving around like a young man. There was nothing but the stupid make-up to suggest that this was a man at the brink of death.

[Chris] This reminds me of something that I know annoyed you. The automated surgery machine…

[Stu] …CONFIGURED ONLY FOR MEN. It was so hackneyed. Trying to make that scene more intense by getting to the surgery and finding out that you have to manually configure the machine.

[Chris] That would be a better film. “Prometheus: In the grim darkness of the far future, robot doctors cater only for men”.

[Stu] It’s a whole new dystopia.

[Chris] It’s interesting actually, as Alien recently appeared as an example of a film that, just about, passed the Bechdel Test. To pass a film has to contain, at any point, a woman talking directly to another woman about something other than a man. I don’t remember Ripley talking to Lambert directly at all.

[Stu] Really?

[Chris] Well maybe in the scenes where they’re all talking over each other but never outside of the strict supervision of menfolk. Anyway, I went into Prometheus with that in mind and a number of things stood out, and the machine was among them.

[Stu] But it’s primarily the weakness of Noomi Rapace’s character. Elizabeth Shaw, who has dedicated her life to the pursuit of these beings, seems to constantly need her love interest, Holloway, to encourage her to do anything.

[Chris] The Man Motivator. It even extends to the point that, once he’s dead, she doesn’t even seem bothered about surviving until somebody literally says “What would Holloway have done?”. It’s depressing.

[Stu] Yeah. We spoke about this. It’s depressing that in 1979 we could have Ellen Ripley fighting to survive for survival’s sake and now in 2012 we have a female protagonist who, for the most part, constantly needs an arbitrary male motivation to even want to survive.


Well, it turns out that Stu and I spoke about Prometheus for over an hour, so there’ll be a part two where we can discuss at length how the film contained no characters and no ending. TO BE CONTINUED

Stay Tuned.




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Review: Prometheus

By its nature, ‘Prometheus’ had large shoes to fill, and just as large expectations. The second the term “Alien prequel” was thrown out, and that it would be original director Ridley Scott’s return to form with Damon Lindelof working on the script, the stakes were immediately raised. Pair that with a marketing scheme that was not only meant to invoke ‘Alien’, but was seemingly inspired by the success of ‘Inception’, and you’ve got a perfect storm of high hopes. ‘Prometheus’ is an enjoyable movie but all of this may have worked to its disadvantage.

It should be said, that I saw this at midnight on proper, large format IMAX in 3D. (At the Lincoln Square AMC. If you live in the NYC area you’re likely familiar with this screen, and if you’re not, you should be.) It’s hard for a movie to look bad on that screen and ‘Prometheus’ delivered ten fold in overwhelming, immersive imagery. Whereas ‘Alien’ (and ‘Aliens’) contains much of its action to claustrophobic hallways and air vents, Prometheus, the ship, and ‘Prometheus’ the movie felt big and inviting. This worked to the film’s favor in putting the human heroes at a properly inferior place. Practical special effects combined with detailed and purposely-‘Alien’-evoking production design gave the movie a visceral and striking aura. This comes out all over the place (literally), but mostly in gut-wrenching, unexpectedly gruesome set pieces. Its imagery is purposeful and memorable and makes it worthwhile.

The question of whether this is a prequel or not is an interesting one to look into. For a while now Scott and Lindelof have been denying that it’s a true prequel. Perhaps that was to avoid those aforementioned big expectations (didn’t work) or to misguide the audience story-wise, but in the end, SPOILER ALERT it pretty much is an ‘Alien’ prequel. That said, it may be one of the stronger prequels ever made, if only because it doesn’t end up at the beginning of ‘Alien’, but it still takes a lot of the right cues. It’s akin to JJ Abrams’ ‘Star Trek’ in that it’s a play on the original universe and tropes but manages to be thoroughly modern. “Spiritual sequel,” “not prequel,” or just straight-up “prequel”, whatever you call it, ‘Prometheus’ did a superb job in honoring the original without bastardizing it with a formulaic sequel. If it was a choice between another ‘Alien’ movie and this, I’d pick this every time. And though structurally and sometimes thematically the two sync up very well, other times … not so much.

It’s hard to ignore the fact that ‘Prometheus’ frequently gets lost in its own head. It has a lot of big ideas and is trying to say a lot about creation, evolution, gender roles, rape, free will, religion, why are we here, what’s point of it all, and on and on, that it inevitably ends up skimming most of these. A movie shouldn’t ever give all the answers but maybe pick one or two of these issues instead of all of them and go a little deeper. For every eye-popping set piece and thought-provoking theme, there’s a heavy-handed metaphor or clunky reveal. The script presents a lot of creativity and interesting sci-fi that manifests well, but most of its characters lack characterization and it takes some unfortunate leaps for sake of plot. All of this comes under a microscope largely thanks to ‘Alien’ and the film’s marketing. We’ve been set up for such a stunning, revolutionary movie, that anything short is a disappointment.

Then there’s the issue of spoilers in the promotional material. While I’m sure the onslaught of trailers and TV spots will get people in the seats, it comes at the cost of them knowing everything that happens. The entire climax of the movie is in the trailers and commercials. This is a big problem and while I’d normally criticize people for complaining about something being “ruined” for them, in this instance, it took away a lot of the magic of this film. Especially, SPOILER ALERT, the fact that Prometheus plunges into the alien ship at the end. That is the freaking climax of the film and it has no business being shown outside of the movie.

Being a reincarnation of ‘Alien’ clearly had its pros and cons, but ‘Prometheus’ is far from a total waste. I’d recommend seeing in the biggest theater possible and in 3D (which it was shot in), I’m not sure I would have liked it as much if I saw it any other. If for nothing else you’ll get to see Idris Elba play a mini-accordian.
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Prometheus

Screw the haters. Screw the critics. This was a visceral experience like no other. 10/10. One of the best science fiction films ever. If you have any questions and have seen it or want to discuss it, contact me! We can talk for hours about this film.
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Post by Admin on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:43 pm

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Here's the thing about Prometheus

People are griping and ranting and raving about Prometheus in relation to Alien canon. Now, I haven’t seen Ridley Scott’s latest statement on how Prometheus relates to the Alien franchise, but I do know this: regardless of if it meant to fit in with the continuity of the first 4 movies (can we just call it 2? 2 and a half. It hurts to include Resurrection) it is an Alien movie.

See, he disclosed at the start that it would not be a direct Alien prequel. Now, whether that is true or whether he said that just to keep people from writing it off in light of how terrible those movies have been since Aliens, I don’t know. But whether it is or isn’t is not the point. The point is that, as I said, it is AN Alien movie. It takes place in the same universe, but is very capable of being an isolated incident. It’s almost like a spin off. Yes, here’s a Xenomorph, yes, these things have similar biology and life cycles to the aliens we know and love, but that’s all part of his plan. It’s a separate story with the same themes and elements.

People just can’t seem to wrap their heads around that idea.

The truly genius thing is that at face value, when you finish the movie, yeah, you can rant and rave about how it totally was an Alien prequel and whether that’s good or bad, or whether it can stand up to the first two, yadda yadda yadda, but to do that would be nothing other than to display your ignorance and inability to flow with a concept that requests that you expand and flow with it some.

Simply put, this cannot be a direct Alien prequel. The continuity just doesn’t allow for it; there are too many things that when you connect it back to what we see in Alien, it’s just not a viable option. The cool thing, is, though, I’m convinced Scott left it that way intentionally.

*Possible spoilers?*

I can’t speak for likelihood of a sequel, but if it happens, you can bet I’ll be in the audience. Especially considering Ellie’s character will be the lead there, and we’ll probably get to see David 8 again. I must say, Ellie is a waaaayyy better character than Ripley was. She’s so much more convicted.

All in all, if you haven’t seen it, I recommend it. It’s one of those where I left the theater completely up in the air about it. I was pretty sure I liked it, but the more I thought about it, the more I became certain that I really enjoyed it.

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prometheus thoughts

this got spoilery. not very, but maybe gets a bit too into the meat of the plot for those who want to go in without knowing anything at all.

the script is probably the weakest element, but it’s written by a dude from lost so not exactly surprising. A.O. Scott gives the most accurate review of the story - it presents cliches, but ridley scott makes you forget that they are cliche
the movie does present more questions than answers but i never really get why people complain about that, that’s a stupid thing to complain about
the less you think about it as an alien prequel, the better. it’s not, really, and 99.99% of the film has basically nothing to do with the franchise-that-is-not-a-franchise
michael fassbender is delightfully creepy and inhuman, but also weirdly compelling. a very interesting performance
charlize theron is really quite wonderful. she got the most complicated part to play, and she does it very well.
idris elba is cute but doesn’t do much
noomi rapace is more sara conner than riply - she starts of really wide eyed and ends the film a completely different animal. in the end, the relationship between her and david is maybe the most interesting aspect of the film - her boyfriend is f#%@#&! annoying.
the film is epic in scope and in scale. this may be the first time i recommend seeing it in imax 3D. the 3D isn’t distracting, and scott seems to really understand what it can be used for. the eyes already perceives depth - it doesn’t need to be created by 3D. what scott does is emphasize that depth, and once you are used to viewing a movie in that way, he draws your eyes around the screen with subtle shifts in the focal point. really interesting, and beautiful, to watch.
the landscapes and set pieces are really incredible, and my attempts to describe them will do them an injustice.
on the whole, i’d say prometheus is not perfect, but a very, very good movie. it does present an interesting take on the science/religion relationship, with it’s interactions between david, who actively knows his maker and elizabeth shaw, who wants to meet hers. but whatever else is cliche is overshadowed by the performances, and the way everything is presented. truly a beautiful, and engaging, film.

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PromEthEuS review

8 outa 10

PROMETHEUS review:

Unfortunately the IMAX midnight show was sold out, but 3D was sufficient.

Prometheus, from the trailers, is a science fiction movie about a group of explorers trying to find our (human beings’) beginnings. BUT what they found instead could be our end bla bla bla. At first I thought this movie was on its own, just a sweet alien movie with a lot of squid looking things injecting fear juices into everyone’s faces. But, right before I saw it, I found out that it directly ties in with theAlienfranchise and that whole universe. This is apparently a while before the firstAlienon Peter Weyland’s first space vessel Prometheus.

The movie immediately starts on an alien planet with some humanoid dude killing himself on a waterfall. We never find out what the f&#! he was doing. Then we come to Earth in the year 2089: These two archeologists find this 35,000 year old cave painting of some big behemoth looking mother fucker is pointing at these orbs in the sky. The next thing we know - BOOM - we’re on Prometheus watching people’s dreams. The technology made up for this film is just outstanding. The amount of attention and detail to every single little piece of equipment is memorizing. Everything has its own little purpose, even if it may just look like an all silver rubix cube. To learn more about the fake technology and the fake Weyland industries, you should check out this dope site projectprometheus.com it’s a lot of fun/interesting. Like here’s some pictures from the site, check this stuff out. Its real neat:

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That’s the mappy orb thing that goes SWOOSH! and maps the caves out on the left and the cool super flashdrive holographic silver rubix cube 2000 on the right.

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Thats the medpod where ya do all yer healing and operations n shat. One of the best scenes takes place in that doohicky its reeal toight. real tight butthole guys.

On the ship, Prometheus, we are first introduced to David (played by the amazing Michael Fassbender [Magneto in X-Men: First Class]). Why is David awake watching everyone else’s dreams while they’ve been asleep for 2 and a half years? Well, because David 8 is an android. An android designed by Peter Weyland himself (who also cured cancer and created Prometheus yeah yeah yeah, we get it buddy you’re super crucial to society and s$#!). He doesn’t need to eat, sleep, drink or breath. But, he likes to do all that stuff anyway or else it would “defeat the purpose of an anthropomorphic android”. He said some s$#! like that. They apparently had an android in Alien and Aliens also (never saw them) and then Ripley (Sigorney Weaver) is turned into an android herself in, I think, Alien: Resurrection. Correct me on that, someone.

So they finally arrive to this mysterious planet after years and years and years of studying, researching, digging and, well, space driving. We get an interesting little set-up/pre-existing life scene to show us who all the characters are (even though only about 4 or 5 are important). This guys a douche, that guy just wants to be friends, these guys are miscellaneous tools who do everything the captain says, and of course the captain (very comically played by Idris Elba) is the generic black guy who HAS, just HAS to light up a blunt the second he comes out of his 2 year coma. Way to go guys. You’re supporting racism.

They immediately find (which I find highly unlikely seeing as how freaking huge this planet is and the giant storm that their in the middle of) these weird boob looking formations with straight lines around em and s$#!. So they decide to explore. THey do some really cool thing with red lights and these orbs that maps out the whole place and it is huuuuge. And turns out someone was taraforming (making the planet habitable) so inside of these places (there’s like three of them in a row but we only ever see the inside of one) there’s a breathable atmosphere so the humans can breath.

They start finding all these crazy clues about how the Engineers (the aliens who apparently created humanity) got killed by some super bad guy or whatever. Also NEVER EXPLAINED. That’s probably the one thing I freaking hated about Prometheus: THEY NEVER EXPLAIN ANYTHING. The entire movie is based around the ultimate questions like “How did we get here” “Who made us” “Where do we go when we die” Which, by the way, was the main characters reoccurring question or whatever “Where do we go when we die” (it had some s$#! to do with her dying dad boohoo.) But…although none of the other answers are ever explained, that one just has no place here. You get the sense that these alien dude made us and s$#! but…what the f&#! does that have to do with dying and heaven and the afterlife? Bullshit.

I suppose it’s some sort of retarded commentary on “Oh we’ll never know the answers to these questions so we’ll tease the audience and f&#! with their brains and we’ll keep yelling about how we want to know the answers and these aliens dudes are gonna give it to us, but just like in real life WE SHALL DENY YOU THE PLEASURE YOU SEEK.” Either that or it was just outrageously lazy writing. I’m gonna go with the ladder. Or, ya know, it could be Ridley Scott being a genius and forcing us to buy three times as many tickets (3 tickets per person per show per every other hour) to the sequel Paradise. Naahhh can’t be. By the way I hate that whole ladder and former s$#!…don’t ever say that to me in person. Or online. Or I’ll become rather displeased. The ladder..so dumb. It’s not a ladder its a f#%@#&! sentence..ok ok. calming down.

The dialogue was intriguing and eerie, keeping me on my toes. Everything they said was so mysterious and you have no idea what people’s agendas are, especially David 8’s (the android). He stole the show, in my opinion. And the world’s opinion. There wasn’t any phenomenal acting apart from Fassbender and the main bitch (who actually kinda looks like Weaver..which was weird.) David 8 is designed to be both the hero and the villain, he’ll do whatever it takes to make his boss (dad) happy. I love that idea. And throughout the movie he’s complaining about his creation and what not. One of my favorite lines was when David was talking with the main explorer dude at tha pool table:

Main explorer dude: “Why do you think they created us, David?”

David 8: “Well, why did humans create me?”

Main explorer dude: “Hm. Uhh, well, because we could. (arrogant chuckle arrogant chuckle)”

David 8: “Imagine your disappointment if your creators said the same thing to you.”

Main explorer dude: “Good thing you don’t know what disappointment is.”

David 8: Glare.

Like, to play an emotionless robot/human who is at the same time struggling with emotions, who is both antagonizing and…protagonizing? and helping everyone out is just…wow. Brilliant. Love it.

The actual reason at the end when you find out where the alien dudes were going and why they were leaving was really shallow and just not well thought out. Once again: there were just no answers. Total bullshit. I’m writing this after i gave it an 8.5 but now that I think about it all of that crap is pissing me off. So get ready Ridley Scott CUZ IM COMIN FOR YA.

So the sets

AKA and the costumes, lighting, monsters, aliens, c-tog (yep just shorten cinematography. s$#! but i still typed it…and this really long explanation sentence betwixt these parenthesis…lots of dots too….worth it.) all that cool s$#! was super dope. Gorgeous film. Aesthetically one of the best I’ve seen in a looooooonnnngggg time. I honestly can’t even think of a movie that looked cooler and had me more intrigued.

Oh and ^that.

Overall, Poppa Schiff’s gon give this flick a solid: 8 outa 10.
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Prometheus is not the Second Coming, despite its religious references.

It is not The Best Movie Ever, though it is quite good.

Rather, it is the semi-metaphysical monster movie that we all knew it was going to be. It’s an interesting mix of Big Idea science-fiction and Alien. I’ve been surprised by complaints that its existentialism is probably only surface-deep (it’s about as well-explained as Evangelion; this spoiler-laden article lays out a bunch of half-or-unanswered questions with theories). Of course it is! It’s a summer blockbuster. Were you expecting Solaris? The alien archaeology stuff is a fun frame for the action, and lots of spots feel sort of like Metroid, which was neat. That being said, I enjoyed those cerebral sequences of crawling around extraterrestrial caverns a lot.

Technically, this is gorgeous. It even uses actual sets! Shot in beautiful real-life locations! Take that, James Cameron. The cast is great, as well. Noomi Rapace did a fine job as the main character—a strong woman cut from a different cloth than Ripley—but my favorite was Michael Fassbender’s David. My only problem cast-wise was the guy who played Rapace’s partner. I found him a bit dull.

There is more that I want to mention, but can’t get there without dropping some spoilers. See this movie! Let me know what you think!
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Ridley crapped the bed.

The Alien prequel that was not definitely was, and Ridley Scott can’t seem to touch the level his own work attained over thirty years ago.

I got off work last night in just enough time to make the 12:01 AM screening of Prometheus in IMAX 3D HUGE RESOLUTION BOOOOOOOOM!!!!! at Lloyd Cinemas. You all know I was pretty excited.

In the end, I left realizing that I didn’t want another Alien film. That’s right. I didn’t. The canon had come far enough. I mean, look at the existing franchise that has gradually become worse and worse with each sequel. The best films of the series are no doubt the first two, with some elements of inspiring content in the third (though, ultimately, it was a failure). Alien is without a question the best sci-fi film of all time (bring it, Star Wars fans). Why not just let it be? It’s not as if Prometheus was going to blow away Alien or something. There was just no way it would happen. I actually didn’t want another Alien film. I just didn’t know it before last night.

I guess the film could have been good, but the writing was just lackluster. Prometheus in IMAX 3D HUGE RESOLUTION BOOOOOOOOM!!!!! vs. Alien’s brooding, slow, claustrophobic burn on plain ol’ 35mm film really sums up the relationship of the two films: big, booming sets in massive 3D resolution do not a good sci-fi film make. Alien did things that Prometheus could never do, all without the CGI and set pieces that Prometheus has.

And now, for this: I hate what Scott and writer (of Lost fame, if that tells you anything about his ability to make a story that makes even the slightest bit of sense) Damon Lindelhof did to the Alien canon. I loved not knowing what the Space Jockey was. I loved the wonder. I loved the questions. Don’t these two knuckleheads know that that’s an element of really great sci-fi? The story needs some in-accessibility. Don’t explain everything— at least not in such black-and-white terms like Prometheus did. MAKE ME GUESS A LITTLE, YOU ASSHOLES. And that’s not even getting into the glaring jumps of logic and conclusion made by the characters in the film, or the completely unexplained motives for many of the things that they did. Just because I the viewer know something about the Alien universe because I’ve seen the films that come AFTER this does not mean that the characters in Prometheus somehow know the same thing. AND EXPLAIN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES TO ME. YOU WERE DOING OKAY UNTIL THEN. WTF HAPPENED THERE, LINDENHOFFER? Really, it almost seamlessly transitioned into Alien (which, by the way, is a completely unconnected film), and then you had to get all nonsensical about it. Why man. No, really, why.

Ugh. Really guys? Take about 40 billion dollars out of the 3D CGI budget and pay some writers that aren’t known for writing a completely asinine, bananas TV show that no one (even Lindelhof) understood.

What is the most disappointing is the potential. There are some scenes in the film I definitely loved. Michael Fassbinder as an android on the ship by himself surrounded by emptiness while the crew was in stasis was really wonderful to watch. Even though the technology in the film was leagues ahead of Alien (which Daniel Carlson geniusly refers to as the Phantom Menace Paradox), it was still a great part of the film. Noomi Rapace was really fantastic and stole all the scenes she was in (the film, maybe?). Michael Fassbinder was a’ight, as well, though his character was not well written (seeing a trend here in the writing department). The Alien-esque action/gore sequences were definitely entertaining and fit in with the franchise’s previous efforts. And the glimpses of Alien sets was fun to see, as well (even though these two films are unconnected, remember?). So all of that teasing compounded the disappointment in the end.

I love sci-fi films. I’ll watch basically any sci-fi film. The newest three Star Wars films? Yes, I will watch them. Bad sci-fi films are entertaining, too. So I’m not saying don’t see Prometheus. I’m not even saying it’s bad— at least not in the way the newest three Star Wars films are bad. It was just an enormous disappointment. And, like the newest three Star Wars films, I realize post-viewing that I didn’t want a prequel. I was okay without the explanation.
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Rating: ★★★★ (4/5) (1 star missing = not my type of genre.)

I really don’t know how to review this film because when I watched it and when it ended, I thought it sucked because there was like no story.. it centers on a journey to find answers then the end didn’t even answer all those questions. But it was indeed a movie ride, the journey was epic.
Then I was expecting this will not be reviewed so well but omg, checked the critics’ review of this. I can’t believe this is certified fresh. And it turns out this is the prequel to the very critically acclaimed Sci-fi-horror classic, Alien. I haven’t watched that which explains probably why i hated the ending of this.

Ok, maybe because that’s why I didn’t like it because it isn’t my type of genre and i really just couldn’t handle the gore. And I watched this 3D, so like it was a miracle i survived this film. Smile) But i have to give super big praise to the cinematography and the visuals. It was so futuristic and technological. The acting was also compelling, intense, and so convincing. Kudos to Michael Fassbender who played an android. (Also kudos to his handsome, perfect features, i can’t even.)

So, in conclusion, this film will be greatly appreciated if you have watched the franchise, Alien. And if you are planning to watch it after you got introduced to it because of this. The 3D is amazing because the visuals are just mindblowing. I can’t say it’s bad because it doesn’t deserve such. This is seriously a brilliant masterpiece. The movie really did deliver a promising and ideal performance. x
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Prometheus: Futurific Crane Game Abort-o-matic

I deliberately try to avoid pre-movie hype: the teasers and trailers, the endless conjecture, interviews and reviews. All I want to know is the genre, director and hook. I limit myself because all too often films can be ruined by all the mess.

I like my movies to be ruined by their own lack of merit. Prometheus did just that.

The movie is slow. For a movie that clocks in at 2 hours that can be too much, even if slow and moody is a hallmark of Ridley Scott’s movies. The problem with Prometheus is the build up does not take us to anything significant. It builds up to a really cool looking scene. Then again, so do Michael Bay films. Superficial comes to mind. Do not get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with beautiful scenes, even cgi spectacle, but there should be more. All the eye-candy is icing on the story/character development cake.

Speaking of story, there are too many instance of contrived plot devices. They are so obvious that putting a blinding neon arrow pointing them out would not have made them more garish. I will not ruin the movie by listing them out here; I will leave that to the movie. I will mention one thing. If something tall, or round, is baring down on you with the intent of crushing you, would you not simply side-step out of the way? What dumb-ass actually tries to out run something when moving to one side or the other would guarantee safety? This is something that has irritated me since childhood. How many times did Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius, get smashed because he failed to step out of the way? Yeah, it was a cartoon, and meant to be humorous, but it is 2012 for Christ’s sake. Can we please put this tired trope out of our misery?

All sci fi worth watching will have at least one incredibly awesome piece of technology. Often it is ridiculous. We forgive the gratuitousness as long as it is bad-ass. Prometheus’ super tech is an over-clocked crane game surgery chamber. Spoilers: Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) gets impregnated by her infected boyfriend with an alien squid. She uses the surgery chamber to have a “C-sectinon” to remove the foreign body. The machine cuts her open and pulls out the baby-thing with a crane game claw. End Spoilers.

Uhm, huh?

First, I believe that procedure is called an abortion. I can overlook this because the filmmakers wanted to avoid making Baby Jesus cry. Second, a crane game claw? That would never work. Not in a million years. Those things are rigged to drop the prize just as the claw jerks to a stop at the top. We are supposed to believe this machine is capable of removing a writhing Cthulhu-ling from a thrashing mother?

Sigh.

I really expected more from Ridley Scott. In many ways this was just a revisioning of Alien. Overall, it was solidly flat. The questions, “What do you expect of your creator? What would you ask your creator? What difference does it make?” are expertly set up in the triangle between the android David (Michael Fassbender), the humans and finally the alien progenitors, but not satisfactorily explored. It all just trudges along to the end where they set up the possibility for Prometheus 2: Epimetheus.





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Prometheus Answers Stuff About Alien, Asserts There Is A 3rd Alien Race, Poses New Questions

Hi!

I’ve been holding back on this a little bit, but Prometheus is OUT today, so this information is now available to North American movie goers.

You do not need to have seen Prometheus to read the first part of this, then I’ll dig into some spoilers to support what I’m asserting. I will clearly mark this.

NO PROMETHEUS SPOILERS YET.

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What do we learn about the universe at the beginning of Alien?

- There is an Engineer ship crash landed on LV-486

- The pilot of this ship had a xenomorph queen something emerge from his chest cavity

- There are tons of eggs in the now-empty weapons hold

- The xenomorph we’ve seen in Alien and Aliens has no human DNA in it

The Space Jockey is essentially a bomber pilot who didn’t make it home after his battle mission. The only thing that Prometheus doesn’t clarify about the situation on LV-486 in Alien is what planet this bio-attack was meant for and if the attack itself was of xenomorphs (implying the Engineers managed to create the xenomorph variant of their bio-weapon) or if the attack was of a bio-weapon and that attack went wrong, so the Engineer wrecked himself on an uninhabited planet and set off a warning beacon before he dies.

BEGIN EXTENSIVE SPOILERS FOR PROMETHEUS

The bio-weapon is a black, DNA-based weapon that doesn’t react the same to all types of alien DNA. So when it touches it’s maker - and Engineer - it drives them mad and eventually makes them explode. Hence what we see in the movie with the holograms when the infection spreads and all the Engineers are running around trying to get to The Head Room (rooms?) - specialized chambers that are atmospherically programmed to keep the bio-weapon in stasis (it’s not that the Prometheus crew springs a trap, it’s that they leave the door to The Head Room open).

We don’t see any sexes amongst the Engineers and considering that they seem to have made this weapon without thinking what it would do to a female, I suggest that they have no sex. So the Engineer brain trust on this military base created a bio-weapon they could drop on a planet. This bio-weapon would alter the victim’s DNA and cause the infected to go full berserker (the males we see infected in the film, the worms) against anything else with no direct purpose. It’s possible that it spreads infections male-to-male when it causes the head of an Engineer to explode in a fine mist.

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What the Engineers (and if you believe Genesis, God himself) didn’t count on was women. Or, specifically, that these things they would attack and kill have some way of reproducing a complex set of DNA (in our case, a very similar DNA strand to the Engineers). Being that the bio-weapon is DNA-based, every time the bio-weapon interacts with the DNA building structures in another life-form, a new species is born.

Note the vagina/womb at the top of the alien life-cycle mural.

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The concerning thing in Prometheus is the sculpture in Engineers stasis room that looks like a xenomorph head. That implies that at some point the Engineers realized what was possible with this virus, because I am convinced (and the film has nothing to disprove me) that the xenomorph-style head is derived from when an Engineer is infected by one of the new species. They’ve discovered this and it - rightly so - scares the crap out of them as a race. They’re a group of things that have gone around the universe creating life in a fairly normalized manner and now they’ve created something that creates a NEW something when it turns on them.

Too complicated? Let me try to break this down.

The Bio-Weapon (Black Goo) has the following characteristics: When it infects you, it has two purposes: kill and spread infection. It needs to be inside of the thing in order to start changing it, so it has a biological imperative to get INSIDE you. In it’s weaponized form, it has no consciousness that we know of. Instead, it’s more like parasitic DNA that re-purposes the things it infects.

However, when the bio-weapon comes in contact with a female capable of giving birth (or…say…LAYING EGGS), there’s the unintended side-effect that the monster gains the ability to reproduce. Hence Cuddles the squid baby having the same biological imperatives as the bio-weapon (Kill, reproduce), but the chest-bursting aspect is wholly new because the bio-weapon has mutated. It can’t transform DNA anymore, it needs to reproduce, to create another version of itself, a new species.

It was this aspect of the bio-weapon that I think took the Engineers by surprise, and it’s this aspect of the bio-weapon that makes me think we’ll have to deal with another, more insect-like species before we’re done with this universe.

What we see in the last, crappy shot of this movie is NOT a xenomorph like we’re used to. First - it doesn’t incubate for long enough and emerges a quadruped. Second - it’s internal jaw is close enough for us to recognize, but it’s not the same. Third - it’s head is too pointy.

It’s not like the xenomorph doesn’t exist in numerous sculpts, this is all on purpose because this is a version of the alien we haven’t seen before. It’s a Weapon-Human-species-Engineer life cycle.

In order for the bio-weapon to produce the xenomorph, the bio-weapon must have infected a female (or queen) of a more insect-like race. A race of aliens that lay eggs (it’s not human, because Shaw gives birth to Cuddles, the eggs a wholly absent in the human/Engineer weaponized species), has acid for blood, makes “hives.”

That’s why the face-huggers exist and don’t look like squid. That’s why there is a larvae process instead of fully-formed xenomorphs being birthed (with the exception of the Dog Alien in Alien 3, but a lot of the bio-weapon continues to adapt to whatever species it infects, the chest-burster is designed sort of like a tape worm with a mouth and the capability to use it’s tail as a spring, so it makes sense).

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So - what happened before the beginning of Alien?

I propose 2 possible stories:

1) The Engineers are off killing races (for reasons even Prometheus leaves you hanging on) and one or a few of them are piloting a ship full of bio-weapon to a planet. They drop the bio-weapon on the planet, hoping to kill the insectoid race. Something goes wrong, the pilot gets infected and as he’s returning home to report victory or rally the troops to finish the job, a queen busts out of his chest, he crash lands on LV-486, dies. The Queen is like “WTF, no life forms?” so she lays as many eggs as possible, then dies. Then, the Nostromo arrives…

2) The Engineers have realized that their bio-weapon has crazy consequences when turned on themselves. “Why are we using the same weapon to create as well as destroy when we could make a whole creature that would just kill everything?” they ask themselves. One of their experiments goes wrong and they unleash the first proto-xenomorph (with the p****-shaped head). It takes forever to kill it, but they’re like: “HEY! If we mix this with the right species, we could create something really deadly.” Thus begins the search for what to combine with their creation-weapon to make the ultimate new weapon. Facilities like the one we see in Prometheus are launched. At some point post-Prometheus, they finally discover the best species to make a hybrid with - some sort of insect like species. The Space Jockey goes to the “Alien homeworld” collects as many eggs as he can so The Engineers can mass produce this new weapon, but something goes wrong and he’s infected, crash landing on LV-486.

END EXTENSIVE PROMETHEUS SPOILERS

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So Prometheus did kind of explain Alien. Or it provided enough explanation for me to come up with back-plots for the gothic horror film that aren’t unsatisfactory in the greater universe these two films shared.

But I refuse to believe that there isn’t a more insect-like alien species out there. They kind of have to exist if the life-cycle of the Xenomorph is in any way related to the monsters in Prometheus.

Although this whole thing does make the end of Alien: Resurrection more interesting. The whole bit about Ripley “giving” the queen the “gift” of childbirth really echoes into the past creation of these baddies, who - UP UNTIL ALIEN RESURRECTION - hadn’t been mixed with Human DNA.

Hence “The Newborn” having a skull? I guess?

Someone get Joss Whedon to explain this.
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My theories about the movie Prometheus

WARNING: SPOILER ALERT, OBVIOUSLY

The barren planet is an outpost for the Engineers. It acts both as storage for the black goo, as well as a station for the creation of new life. Engineers from this outpost chose Earth as one of their (possibly many) hospitable planets on which to seed life. Over time they continued to monitor Earth, visiting it and leaving directions to the docking station as a sort of invitation to come visit them. Why did they leave directions to an outpost? Giving humanity the location of their home world would have been too dangerous. Also, the engineers were obviously wary of humans. They were cautious enough to continually visit humanity, and then later decide that they were too dangerous to be left alive.

Now the obvious question is of course, why? Why were we so dangerous? I think the answer lies in the fact that we could reproduce. I’m not sure the engineers possessed that quality. You see, the black goo accelerates the evolution process. From the Engineers it created the diverse amount of life found on Earth. However, when combined with other forms of life the effects…differ. This can be seen from the worms already present on the outpost planet which mutate into what some have deemed “vagina snakes.” Now the goo has the ability to morph into the ultimate evolutionary predator, the xenomorph. The engineers understood this, and that’s why the mural on the goo room depicts a xenomorph. However, humanity could add something new to the xenomorph process. Reproduction. That’s why we were so dangerous. From us the goo could make xenomorph queens, capable of producing eggs. That’s also why I don’t think the engineers would have destroyed us using goo. That would have been too dangerous. Now I suppose someone could entertain the theory that the engineers weren’t trying to destroy us at all, but must of the movie seems to focus on this one desire, and I doubt they would make one of the themes of the movie a falsehood. Also, that living engineer beats the crap out of a lot of humans.

Now, about the original incident that took place on the engineer ship. I think the problem came from the worms that were in the soil. The engineers didn’t know they were there and proceeded to get vagina snaked. That led to some engineers getting infected with the black goo, and some xenomorph precursors popping out of some engineer bellies. That would explain the pile of bodies with the holes in them. One engineer was obviously in stasis when this happened, and survived the incident.

How does this connect to the original Alien film? Well originally I thought both took place on the same outpost. However, after reading some articles online I see that the planets actually have different names. Therefore there are many possibilities. One of these is that the xenomorph queen laid some eggs in the other ships with engineers in stasis. One engineer then woke up, freaked out, tried to fly away, and crashed into another planet as a xenomorph burst from him. Personally I like that theory the best.

Now, what did I forget to mention?
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Movie Review: Prometheus

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Movie Review: Prometheus

Great science fiction stories are stories that usually ask one thing “Have we gone too far?” In Prometheus, the new film by Sir Ridley Scott, the question is “Are we about to go too far?” The movie opens with an interpretive prologue and doesn’t stop there with being vague and speculative, which isn’t a bad thing at all. Noomi Rapace’s character Dr. Elizabeth Shaw leads the way in a scientific journey to discover the origin of mankind, so her character is constantly asking the same things the audiences are as well.

But is it a good movie? Well, truly, Prometheus shouldn’t have been marketed as part of the Alien franchise. Granted it has never said that on a poster or a trailer but in interviews Scott says such things. It’s not particularly a prequel to the 1979 hit, but it does take place in that universe and before the events of Alien. Prometheus works better as a standalone film. The expectations for fans to build up will never be met and that’s specifically because they’re looking for that feeling one gets while watching Alien. But the movie is quite good! Visually stunning and some really great scenes (particularly with Michael Fassbender’s David character) that should start a nice dialog between fans considering that they’ve been debating on whether or not a character from another Scott film Blade Runner is a replicant for decades now.

Prometheus is more like John Carpenter’s The Thing than Alien. Nobody is safe from an enemy that is seldom seen. There isn’t much trust among the crew but they have to roll with it all, which hurts Prometheus because that confuses audiences while in the moment. “Why would this person do this if they just dealt with that?!” Prometheus isn’t a perfect movie cause it has those “just roll with it” moments, but it certainly isn’t a bad film whatsoever. The movie opens up questions, sets up pieces, and just leaves the room. Leaving the audience to look at those pieces that were set. If there were a sequel, (which would be called Prometheus 2 or Prometheii, not Alien) there would be a lot to jump off of and explore more definitively. Until then though, Prometheus stands alone among the Alien world and will most likely be overlooked due to taking a leap.

Grade: B-
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My review of Prometheus

No spoilers, I promise.

It’s really good. I mean really good and not great, not a masterpiece. I wasn’t expecting this to be Ridley Scott’s opus, so I wasn’t upset or disappointed. I was expecting a beautifully executed, impeccably filmed, and strongly acted movie, and that’s exactly what Prometheus is.

Everyone’s been saying this, but just purely on a visual level, the movie is stunning. As a huge fan of H.R. Giger’s work (I have his art tattooed on my body) I could see how closely the production designers and art directors looked at his paintings and sculptures to created the landscapes and locations of the movie. You could have taken fames of the movie and you would have something that looks like a Giger painting. The use of color and light is lovely, and the special effects and design of the extra-terrestrial beings in the film is very well done.

The movie is very well acted, but the two standout performances are from Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace. The two of them really carry the majority of the movie. Fassy is a really great combination of being sinister and spooky, while also seeming sympathetic and genuine, it’s a really interesting performance. And Noomi Rapace doesn’t just do another version of Ellen Ripley, she creates a different kind of heroine, one who’s fundamental beliefs are challenged, and she herself faces the challenge of keeping her wits about her when everything around her is turning to chaos.

The script isn’t really anything spectacular, but it works fine. The dialogue isn’t brilliant, and it does have a lot of moments where it sounds stilted or awkward, but not so much that it affected my enjoyment of the movie. I appreciated what it did with the characters, and how it brings up big questions but does not answer many of them. It could have easily turned into a preachy, hoakey “faith vs. science” debate, but it thankfully avoids making the movie a two-dimensional argument between two opposing viewpoints. Here, nobody has the answers, everybody’s assumptions and beliefs are wrong.

I do not believe that this movie should be taken as a direct prequel to Alien, I feel it is important that I make that clear. The two movies do not lead into one another directly, and you could even make the argument that this movie takes place in its own alternate universe. But the connections are there, and if you are a fan of Alien, then there is something very emotionally satisfying about seeing things from that great film revisited here. But it isn’t the same kind of movie, and you shouldn’t expect it to be. This movie stands on its own.

Prometheus is a big, ambitious movie that is definitely worth your time to go see. It is really nice to see Ridley Scott back in a genre he helped to invent and define. The movie is not perfect, but who cares if it’s not. It’s refreshing to see a film with actual intelligence and thought behind it. What more could we as moviegoers ask for?
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So, Prometheus. It’s a solid movie, maybe not as amazing as the hype was leading me to believe, but a really good film nonetheless. As usual with a Ridley Scott film, it looked crisp and beautiful, with a staggering sense of scale (including one of my favorite types of shots, the “giant spaceship as a tiny speck flying past a planet”) and landscape majesty. There are some scary moments, and the movie itself tingles with sheer dread for most of its runtime. Creature designs are suitably grotesque, and everyone in the cast does a great job. Aside from some silliness at the end, it’s a damn good movie. It is also a testament to human stupidity, as we shall see in the spoiler-filled part of this review, after the break.

Now, for a group of supposedly smart people, the people on board the Prometheus are borderline mentally handicapped. Their response to any strange unknown alien substance is to do everything short of rubbing it all over their faces. How about employing, you know, just the barest minimum of cautious safety measures. Oh, the air is breathable? Let me take my helmet off and take big, gulping breathes without checking for airborne contagions first! Oh, did our fellow explorer not immediately die from taking his helmet off? It must be safe! Oh, is that a p****-y looking alien creature? Let me try to pet it and see what happens! Oh, we found a living Engineer? I’m going to go and ask it some questions even though we have no idea if they’re friendly! Oh, did the suit camera of the dead guy start responding again, just outside our ship, way the hell away from where we left his body? Let’s go investigate it on foot, rather than use an external camera or something! Oh, did we just land on an alien world with no conception of what’s out there? We don’t need no stinking weapons!

Did every last person on that damned ship suffer some sort of cerebral meltdown while frozen? Is it like a prototype version of cryo-sleep, and they’re just now discovering the unintended side-effect that it turns your brain into mush? Please, no, let’s have the biologist keep waving his extremities at the weird alien lifeform that, let’s not forget, looks like a freaking king cobra right before it strikes. I hope that we are more well-prepared for actual alien exploration than this, otherwise we are good and doomed.
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Prometheus

The tone and design were perfect. A lot of the performances were great. Several of the freakier moments were incredible. But:

Noomi Rapace is just terrible. A screen-hogging void of non-charisma constantly eclipsing more interesting characters. I had a feeling about her exactly once during the entire movie, and it was body horror. Even her crewmates seem to forget she exists for long stretches of time.
On the topic of mystifying casting decisions: given a character who is an old man, they inexplicably decide to encapsulate a young actor in a preposterous and obtrusive rubber “old man” suit and force him to unconvincingly ape the body language of an elderly person, rather than just, um, casting an old man.
The plot makes no damn sense. Initially, I tried to resolve it in my head, but there is a lot of crap that just doesn’t fit together. Notably, Charlize Theron plays a crucial thematic role and turns in a good performance, but the plot never responds to her actions or gives her anything important to do.
The script’s themes are kind of muddled. Obviously, the Prometheus legend plays an important role, but it gets to the point of being heavy-handed. Bits of setup strewn around make quite a fuss about an impending crisis of faith that never arrives. In fairness, the Blade Runner creator/created theme is handled well.

So the script needed more work, and a couple of critical casting decisions were made poorly. That said, it’s nowhere near as bad as Alien 3, despite some of the ragier internet commentary. I don’t even necessarily think it’s “bad.” If you’re expecting plotty hard sci-fi, you’ll be disappointed, but it works as a tone-driven thriller.
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If you’re going to see Prometheus this weekend might want to read this over. I saw it last night and I enjoyed it.

Anyways, saw this the other day and thought it may help a bit. But no worries, no spoilers. Found over at: allezaucinema.tumblr.com

1. Prometheus? Who’s that guy!?

Prometheus is the name of the spaceship in this movie, plain and simple. In the Greek mythology, Prometheus was a Titan who stole the fire from Zeus and gave it to the men. Keep that in mind, just saying.

2. What about Alien? Is this a prequel?

Let’s see. Prometheus takes place in the Alien universe and the events in the movie take place before everything we saw in Alien, but it’s not a direct prequel. So, don’t expect the movie to be like Alien, and please don’t expect at the end the birth of a baby named “Ellen Ripley”.

3. The alien eggs, big deal.

Alien’s plot was about a spaceship crew who received a signal transmission from an unknown planetoid. They land and discover an abandoned ring shaped spacecraft, a giant alien mummy and alien eggs. But, who was that creepy mummy? Where did that spacecraft come from? What was the relation between the alien eggs and all this? Is the giant mummy really related to the aliens? Did the mummy also find the eggs by chance? All these questions are important when we watch Prometheus, or maybe not.

4. Weyland-Yutani rules us all.

In Alien, everything has the Weyland-Yutani logo: spaceships, robots, beers, everything. This is “The Corporation” in the Alien universe. So, when you hear the name “Weyland” in Prometheus you know what it means.

5. Don’t forget: in this universe, spaceships always have and android.

In every Alien movie there is an android in charge of things nobody wants to do. They look like normal people but they are always kind of freak, they also have disgusting milky fluid instead of blood. In Alien it was “Ash”, in Aliens it was “Bishop” and in Alien Resurrection it was “Call”, wait… A, B, C? The next one is called David for sure! (I actually read this in IMDb). The thing is that the android is very important in this movie, and this one is different from the others.

6. Think in movies like 2001, Blade Runner and A.I. Artificial Intelligence.

Prometheus has more elements from those movies than from Alien. These movies always use technology as an excuse to blow your mind. So, in Prometheus we can find philosophical androids and questions like: Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?

7. Aliens also have ancestors.

And they may not look like we imagine.

8. Do I need to watch it in 3D?

Yes, grab a front seat.

9. Finally… Is it good?

Don’t pay attention to people saying it’s a bad movie. It’s incredible and I know you will enjoy it.
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Thoughts about Prometheus:

Needed that sleep coma after waiting on line for 5 hours, but I had a lot of fun and was the first to enter the theatre, I even got an exclusive IMAX print.

The film answered everything…and nothing…all at the same time. Any theories I had going into the film were thrown out the window by the first 45 minutes. Don’t know how I feel about that, but the movie was a hell of a ride. Best film I’ve ever seen on an IMAX. The audience had a blast.

The entire cast was excellent…Fassbender as David 8 in particular, but Idris did an amazing job as well given the limited amount of screen-time he had.

We were definitely “Lindelof-ed” but in the end I was very pleased by how the film turned out (even though this film was FAR from perfect)…and it left me wanting more!

And finally, THE FINAL SHOT…HOLY.s$#!.SCARY.
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P R O M E T H E U S

Well … The Prometheus has landed.

Tell the truth I was looking forward to the cinema. Many times I saw the trailer for Prometheus, because it is captivated me.

I am the Alien fanatic. Smile (I have a tattoo on my leg)

But now… I don’t know what to write.

I liked the movie. Director Ridley Scott once again showed what he is best. However, I’m not completely satisfied with the film. Beautifully shot in the movie, great cast of actors. Drama, action, horror … but something else.

(SPOILER WARNING)

I was strongly reminded of the first Alien movie. Sometimes I had the feeling that I know what will happen, because I have seen this. And sometimes, unfortunately, I knew what would happen.

(END OF SPOILER WARNING)

However, I recommend everyone to go to the cinema and see Ridley Scott’s Prometheus. Of course, in 3D. Smile



One note:

I am sure … the U.S. Box Office will open on the first place, Prometheus.

The question is how much revenue will bring the first weekend? I think 100 - 120 million dollars.

Maybe two or three weeks will be on top of the box office. Then, slowly going down the Top list.

The end result: I think 280 - 320 million dollars. Better case: 350 - 360 million dollars.
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A Spoiler-Free Prometheus Review

So I went to see Prometheus last night and here is my take. I have been an Alien/Aliens fan for quite some time, Aliens being one of my favorite movies of all time; that movie was far too perfect. I had always wondered and wanted to know many things about the series though; such as who was the dead alien pilot that the crew of the Nostromo find in Alien? Did his kind make the xenomorph Aliens that star in the series? And so on. So when I heard that none other than Ridley Scott was making a prequel, I was beyond ecstatic. Of course I heard that Mr. Scott was tired of the original Alien storyline and was wanting to make a similar, yet altogether different series ‘based’ on the origin of the aliens and the space jockey. I was unsure what to think about this at first, but ultimately decided to trust Mr. Scott.

First of all, it was beyond gorgeous. First rate sci-fi cgi; some of the best I have ever seen. This movie better get some awards for visual effects because they have blown everything and will blow everything out of the water in that area. Second, the acting was fantastic. Everyone in the movie was wonderful in their acting ability with not one person standing out as weak or flat. Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender both did an exceptional job, and I applaud them. Third and most importantly, the story.

Where do I begin? I can not tell you much, without spoilers, but what I can tell you is that Mr. Scott most certainly did what he hoped to achieve; a story similar to Alien but totally different. You could recognize many elements of the franchise throughout the storyline, but there were parts so different, I had to remind myself constantly what I was watching. This is not a bad thing, per se, in fact I am excited with the developments presented in the movie. The story has so much more depth and potential than the original Alien story, presenting the beginning of a story that would span many sequels quite comfortably, and I look forward to these sequels with great interest.

For you see, that is what is badly needed: a sequel. So many questions were given to us in the movie that were not given answers, that I could fill up at least 3 pages of your dashboard. Now everyone is different; I myself love a complete story with no questions, so I was a bit disappointed and even a bit pissed off with the sheer amount of unanswered questions; I mean it was almost ridiculous. My sister, however, is totally different and actually enjoyed this aspect of the movie; to each his own I suppose.

The monsters themselves barely make much of an appearance in the movie, but when they do, Oh my Lord do they make an impression. This film fills in all the check boxes of a successful sci-fi horror, with lots of gruesome deaths, suspenseful moments, nauseating moments, and jump out of your seat moments. Dont go if you have a weak stomach when it comes to ‘sci fi horror’; this is Alien after all.

In summary, it was a beautifully made and fantastically told sci-fi horror film, worthy of the Alien franchise, and all fans of the series and the genre will enjoy it. They just better make that damn sequel, because I need some answers.
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Prometheus (R. Scott, 2012): Just to prevent some issues that others seem to be having with the film, here’s a little disclaimer: Whatever it is that you’re expecting, just forget it, as I can almost guarantee it isn’t what you think. It’s a purely existential drama laced with sci-fi elements. Action, horror, and romance find their footing in the film, but the story relies on questions that have no answer, and not once does the film claim to have an answer. It’s about the never ending quest for the secret of life and the horrors that come with gaining knowledge. A beautiful and ambitious film. Michael Fassbender gives the performance of the year so far as David, a first-gen android that proves to be the most humane and personable character in the film. Ridley Scott returns the honor and dignity to the Alien franchise that he began 33 years ago. His direction is meticulous, as to be expected, and he assumes that you’re smart enough, and willing, to do some work while enjoying this truly great cinema experience. In just two hours, Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof manage to tackle the beginnings of mankind in a way that couldn’t be more horrifying, more gratifying.
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